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Ok im new to this reef thing ive been looking around the web and i ran into a video from you tube..the guy in the video was saying that uv sterilizer are really no good for reef tanks is it true ? Ive seen some people set ups and not all have uv sterilizer me myself i own one but now im wondering is it really doing something or is it just waisting light....plz help...
 

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It depends on who you talk to. I am a firm believer in UV lights. If run properly they can help keep protozoan populations in check along with bacteria and algae.

If you search Manhattan Reefs you will find various opinions. You need to make the right decision based on your goals. I've seen a lot of people using UVs but improperly.

If you describe your intended use I can give you more details as well as others on the board.
 
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I noticed a difference when i stoped using mine. Also they can be good for ick. The only reason i took it off line is cause the bulb went and i never replaced it. But just got a new one and will add it back online next week.
 
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i noticed a difference when i stoped using mine. Also they can be good for ick. The only reason i took it off line is cause the bulb went and i never replaced it. But just got a new one and will add it back online next week.
thats what im scared of the ick i went thru that before it sucks since i put it on i havent had ick in my tank (knock on wood) i guess ill keep it running..thanks...
 

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uv works, of couse there will be mix opinions. very important do not get confuse with max or min of GPH that flows through the uv. there are certain bacteria that can be killed at a certain GPH while at a different GPH will kill bad agale and "including the good ones". i bought a water pump with lowest GPH base on the distance the pump is from the uv for more contact time. i forgot the link with more info on uv but do your research.
 

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UV-sterilizers conceptually can be very effective in killing unwanted organisms in the fish tank. The problems concerning their effectiveness are significant, though. Like mentioned, the "dwell time" or, the time that an organism is exposed to the UV-light inside the sterilizer must be adhered to (meaning, not exceeded) depending on what it is that you want to kill...for example, algae suspended in the water column as opposed to parasites. This is generally approached from the standpoint of gph of the pump that drives the water through the UV-sterilizer. And, as mentioned by cisco, the general rule to follow is, the slower the better in terms of kill-effectiveness. All manufacturers will state what the optimum gph you should use to move the water throught their UV-sterilizers, but lately, there's been a tendency to recommend movement much faster than it is wise, and so I'd recommend undercutting the recommended pump...even significantly. Then there is the limited life-span of the peak effectiveness of the UV-bulb. I don't know if there's a definitive way to tell how long the bulb will last, but if it's run 24/7, I would think that after 9-months or so, it's time to replace it to keep the sterilizer at optimum effectiveness.

The major shortcoming of a UV-sterilizer is that in order to kill something that it's intended to kill...like ick...the pathogen must go through the sterilizer and be exposed to the bulb's emission...at no more than the correct "dwell time." But....not all pathogens are necessarily drawn through the bulb before they have a chance to find a fish "host" and do their dirty work.

With all of the live rock and sand with all their crevices and holes and nooks and crannies, some of the pathogens are never pulled down into the sump before going into the UV-sterilizer if that's where its water-pump is located as more than likely, most are. This enables some of the pathogens, like ick, to get to a "host" safely before it's ever killed by the UV-sterilizer. For that reason, it is more effective to have the pump that brings the water directly to the UV-sterilizer in the tank itself rather than in the sump.

In any event, UV-sterilizers do offer some utility but they should never be considered anything close to a guarantee that parasites will never get a foothold on the fish in the tank.
 

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I noticed a difference when i stoped using mine. Also they can be good for ick. The only reason i took it off line is cause the bulb went and i never replaced it. But just got a new one and will add it back online next week.
Well it seem like you had good results.I had a 30 watt sterilizer on my 90gal reef with negative results.I now have it on my 110 gal fish only with a new bulb.Not so good at killing ick as i thought my heniochus do a better job of picking ick off the infected fishes.
 

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Well it seem like you had good results.I had a 30 watt sterilizer on my 90gal reef with negative results.I now have it on my 110 gal fish only with a new bulb.Not so good at killing ick as i thought my heniochus do a better job of picking ick off the infected fishes.

A 30 watt UV is not enough wattage to kill pathogens in a 90 gallon system. The exposure to UV the protozoans needs can only be done at about 50-90 GPH at that wattage. You wouldn't even turn over your full systems water volume in an hour at that rate. This is probably why you haven't had any luck.

I'd go with a 40 watt at minimum and run it at about 100 GPH. That will do the trick :) Also keep in mind what Avi wrote above in his post. The UV can help prevent major outbreaks but will not 100% eliminate the problem. Think in terms of "keeping things in check" :)
 

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I am a believer of them but most people use them wrong as stated before. In addition to the proper flow rate they also need to be cleaned often as well to perform in their peak condition. Secondly most people do not change their bulb at the right intervals. Furthermore, UV sterilizers work best when used in systems that prefilter down to 100 microns and less....before entering a UV.
 

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