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meschaefer

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had been wanting to post a tank thread since I set up my 65 gallon, but just havn't found the time. I have a few minutes to kill, so I thought I would get it started.

Some background. About a two years ago I bought a house in Astoria. Most people I know think that they are going to go big when they own there own house, but I had to downsize. Granted I didn't downsize much, but I needed a smaller footprint, if it was going to fit in its alloted location. As such my 75 gallon, became a 65 gallon.

I already had most of the equipment that I needed, but started to buy new/or replacement equipment about six months before the move. I purchased a 65 Gallon AGA tank, a new Ice Cap fan for the hood, reflectors for my MH (no reflectors previously), as well as alot of odds and ends.

The first thing that needed to be done was to build a stand and a hood. I built the stand out of Oak Veneer 3/4 inch plywood, with solid Oak trim. I made the stand so that it stands taller than usual, as I am a tall guy and get tired bending over to look into tanks.
This is a picture of it unfinished and then after a couple of coats of stain and poly.

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If you look inside the cabinet (Looking at the picture where the stand has been stained), you will see that I sealed all the joints in the cabinet so that it is watertight. This came in handy when my sump started to leak, it was able to hold a couple of gallons of water, that didn't make it onto my carpet.

Along with the stand, I needed to make a custom Hood. The hood needed to hold relflectors and lamps for 2 x 175 MH and 2 x 65 PC. I built a frame, which would support the reflectors and the lamps out of poplar, and skinned it with 1/8 inch Oak veneer plywood, then stained it to match the stand. This is a picture of the frame with a couple of reflectors so you can get an idea about how it is laid out.

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The frame also allows me to remove the top or sides of the hood so that I can get inside of it to fiddle with it. This came in really handy when I was wiring up the lighting. As I was able to reach into the hood behind the reflectors, with the top of it removed.


In order to cut the hole for the fan, I used a dremmel with a router attachment. I used the fan to draw the circle for the hole, then freehanded the cut with the router.

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The room where the tank went, has a dedicated 20 amp circuit for an airconditioner. I don't use an AC in that room (it is covered by other ACs), so I have the tank plugged into that outlet. Inside the stand, the line runs into two GFI outlets, and then into another four outlets running off of each GFI. Their is only one outlet that is not protected by the GFI which was for the power compact's, as I read that they have a tendency to trip the GFI. (Notice I used the past tense, after getting all this set up I deceided to use an Aquacontroler Jr. with hardwired outlets. So I don't use most of the outlets I wired into the cabinet. Everything is still plugged into a GFI, but I need to redo all the electric, that is a job for another day)

There are two "kill" switches on the right hand side of the cabinet. One is an emergency switch that turns off the return pumps and power heads, the other turns off the float switch that is connected to my auto top off.

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My old 75 gallon had a DSB, and I deceided to go with a DSB in the 65. It was not an easy decision as I want to go completely SPS with alot of flow. But I also wanted to keep a shrimp/goby pair, and I am a creature of habit and was used to looking at a DSB.

Do the the burrowing nature of the shrimp/goby pair. I made a half dozen or so legs out of 2 inch pvc, ontop of which I placed egg crate coverd with nylon window screening. The purpose of this is two fold. One, support the rock work, despite the burrowing of the goby/shrimp; Two force the goby/shrimp to create the opening to its burrow in a place that was acceptable to me.

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Inside my stand I orginally used the 29 gallon sump I had used with the 75 gallon. That sprung a leak, and I replaced it with a 20 gallon long. It is divided like a T, with a refugium at the top of the T and the Skimmer and Return on its sides. I have a POS red sea berlin skimmer, that I replaced the venturi on for a better one. I run it with a Mag 9.5, and the return is a Mag 12.


The blue container held my top off water. I top off with RO/DI mixed with Pickling Lime. All my wate is RO/DI made with the TYPHOON II Reefkeeper from Air Water Ice.


The refugium is reverse lit, it has a DSB, some rock ruble, and cheato. It is lit with the light recommeded by Melev.

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Cooling is acomplished via a ten inch fan blowing down on the sump. The fan is connected to the Aquacontroler. When the temp reaches 79 degrees the fan comes on. At 80 degreees the skimmer shuts off, the Mag pump adds a lot of heat. At 81 degrees the MH Lights turn off. Even with the 100 degree days we had, I was able to keep the temp under 83 degrees without running the air conditioners all day. (I only ran them when I was home)

The problem with the stand is that when I replaced the 29 gallon sump with the 20 long, I ran out of room in the stand for my top off resivor. I was able to fit of slim five gallon container in there before, but with the longer sump, I cant fit it anymore. Right know it is sitting out side of the tank in a covered bucket. My wife is not happy with it. The only thing I can think of is to cover it with a small cabinet, so that it is hidden. I would love to keep it in the cabinet, I just havn't figured out how yet. :scratchch

Right now the only fish in the tank are a pair of percs and their host sebae. I have two cleaners and two peppermint shrimp. Clean up crew is a dozen or so scarlet hermits, and a couple of turbos.

This picture of the tank, was right after it was first set up. Most of my softies are gone, and I have picked up a number of SPS frags. Everything is growing well and most of them arem starting to get good color, with nice polyp extension.


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I thought about upping my MH from 175w to 250w, but I think the weakest point in my system is my skimmer so I want to take care of that first. I figure the center of the tank is getting a lot more light then the outer edges as MH are said to have a two foot spread. The lights are only seperated by a foot so there is a lot over lap.

I use Ushio bulbs with a Bllueline e-ballast (dual 175w). The PC's ( 2 x 65w) are for actinic supplementation.
 
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Wow, looking good there. Thanks for the information. Great job on the stand. Good luck with it!
 

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Whao that was a long read! Great work M.E.!
Hows the flow like in your tank?
 
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excellent descriptions there.
looks like your off to a great start.
I love the idea of the eggcrate to keep the goby where you want him.
 

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Froggie said:
Whao that was a long read! Great work M.E.!
Hows the flow like in your tank?


If skimming is the weakest link in my system, flow is the second weakest. My tank is slowly moving towards all SPS, and I would really like to get the water moving in there.

I am getting almost 600 gph from the return and I have two Maxi Jet 1200 s in there. The Maxi Jets allegedly gets 295 gallons per hour. So I am allegedly getting about 16x turnover, but I doubt it.

My friend is supposed to be making the maxi jet mod, so I wil try that out when it is done. If that doesn't work out for me, I need to look into upgrading my power head situation. I would like to get two overpowered PH's that I could control with the Aquacontroler Jr. to get a wave making effect.
 

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jhale said:
I love the idea of the eggcrate to keep the goby where you want him.

I'll have to let you know how that works out. Right now I only have the two percs. I can't decide on a final fish selection yet, so I havn't put anything else into the tank.

Other than the goby, I want to put in a Mandarin. My wife insists that I have a "flat fish", her favorite fish so far has been the flame angel that I had for four years. But, I am concerned about nipping, that is a problem with all pygmy angles. Tangs get to large...what does that leave me with?
 

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scarf_ace1981 said:
you could put:
some chromis or
pair of scissortail gobies or
a trio of anthias or
some wrasse


I love the anthias, I just worry about the bio-load and space requirements for three of them. I also don't know how well they fit into the "flat" requirement that my wife has. Although how can she not like them! They are on the short list.

I have also thought about a six line wrasse, but I don't want anything that will compete with a madarin for pods. I really don't remeber how much rock I have in the tank, as I have added and removed rock to many time to keep track, but It has got to be over a hundred pounds worth, with the refugium I believe I can meet his requirements, but not with another pod predator in the tank.
 

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Great looking tank and great post so far, so descriptive and detailed, just like a contract:lol:<o></o>
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Matt, go with two Tunze 6000 with a multi controller for your flow, don’t mess around with other want-to-bes or modded stuff; they are not worth the trouble and headaches. However, I did read somewhere on the internet you can get 1,000 to 1,200 GPH from a moded Maxi-jet, or was that 2,500 GPH?? This IMO is all “allegedly” and hard to proof to be factual. Another benefit would be having the Tunze Streams on a computer back up for a short term power out situation, they should last a while in those events. <o></o>
 

meschaefer

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cali_reef said:
Great looking tank and great post so far, so descriptive and detailed, just like a contract:lol:<o></o>
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Matt, go with two Tunze 6000 with a multi controller for your flow, don?t mess around with other want-to-bes or modded stuff; they are not worth the trouble and headaches. However, I did read somewhere on the internet you can get 1,000 to 1,200 GPH from a moded Maxi-jet, or was that 2,500 GPH?? This IMO is all ?allegedly? and hard to proof to be factual. Another benefit would be having the Tunze Streams on a computer back up for a short term power out situation, they should last a while in those events. <o></o>

I have looked into the Tunze 6000 and it is right at the top of my list to replace the PHs. I really like them, I have never heard of someone being unhappy with them. I am definately a fan of buying quality, and if it will last I don't mind laying out the $ for it. The only thing that bothers me about them is the need for a seperate controler. I wish I could find something of good quality that I could control with the Aquacontroler. I quess it would free up some outlets on the AC Jr. I was also looking at the seios, but as I understand it, you can't put them on a wavemaker either.

As indicated, my friend is making the maxi-jet mods. Not a long term solution, but if he is going to do all the work.... If it doesn't work out I am no worse for the ware. I would really love to get the water whipping around in there.

Oh yea.. I could have gotten alot more descriptive but I was tired. and no one will sue me over this. (at least I hope not.... that calls for a caveat. The veiws expresssed in this thread are strictly those of the authors. Don't try anything that I have done or discussed as it is likely to result in catestrophic failure and cause damage to your home, person and family)
 

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M.E., I would stay away from the six-line wrasse. They can get very aggressive and ruin your chances of adding any other wrasse/peaceful fish.
 

meschaefer

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Froggie said:
M.E., I would stay away from the six-line wrasse. They can get very aggressive and ruin your chances of adding any other wrasse/peaceful fish.


One of the reasons that I only have the percs, is because I want to finalize a fish list before I add anymore. I would prefer to add the docile fish first, then add the more agrressive last. The percs probably should not have been the first fish in there, but its to late for that. The other problem is that the six line is a pod predator, and the mandarin is the only other fish that is a must have for me.
 

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