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JSweeney76

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Ok. I'm not much for blogging but I figure that I needed to vent and who better to vent to than a group of fellow reefers that can sympathize.

I've been keeping fish tanks for a majority of my life (>15 years) with a good portion of it being reef tanks. Now, I'm not saying that I know everything about reefs because I don't. I have A LOT to learn and am always up to learn new things. What's even better is that it seems that the entire family has gotten in on the hobby. My wife decided that it would be cool to someday get a large reef. So I went online and found an awesome set up for a 220 reef on ebay. It had everything including 300+ lbs. of live rock, skimmer, fish, and wet dry filter for $750. The only problem... It was located in St. Augustine, Florida and I am in New Jersey.

After some discussion, my wife thought I should get it. After much reluctance and 10 seconds left on EBay, I bid and won. During the first weekend in February and the second blizzard of the year, I drove 963 miles down to florida and pick up this tank and equipment. Now I should have known that it was going to be an issue when I walked into the sellers house and the tank wasn't touched and still holding water. After four hours, and this guy telling me that the tank was set up for three years and never had the gravel cleaned, I was on the way back to Jersey have spent less than 12 hours in Florida.

On the way back, all the fish died, I crawled ten miles an hour through Virginia, Maryland, and Delaware, and everything froze. I came home, grabbed some sleep and set the tank up. Now, I always told myself not to cut corners; and the little voice in the back of my head told me to not cut corners. But, because I didn't have the extra money, I decided to reuse the sand that was included in the original set up. I figured that since I was using RO/DI water and would do a large water change within a couple of weeks, that the tank would be ok. Yeah, I was wrong.

On top of that, I was placing the rock into the tank and I guess I put too much pressure on one of the center braces and it BROKE in half. I frantically called around to manufacturer's and pet stores and discovered that I needed to order a new top frame; certainly a lot better than a new $1000 reef ready tank.

I'll make a long story short. A buddy of mine had given a bunch of stuff from his 220 after he cracked the glass. This include a coralife aqualight pro, berlin skimmer and chiller. I figured that I would substitute the light and skimmer and have a kickin' setup. After I had to replace the main pump for the filter, the stand pipes for the tank (because they were leaking and glued together) and need to find a new light because my buddy didn't take care of it, I decided to try and do the tanks first water change.

I go downstairs and notice that there are a lot of bubbles coming up from the sand. In addition, the tank STUNK like rotten eggs. The little voice in my head was screaming, I TOLD YOU SO. I guess that hydrogen sulfide was being emitted from the sand. So, today, I emptied the ENTIRE tank, took out all of the rock and sand, and replaced it all. I'm now making more RO/DI water and will be filling the tank up for a second time.

Now all that's left is to get the lighting squared away and figure out how to hook up the skimmer since it's as tall as the stand; but i've got some time for that. God only knows what is going to happen next. I'll keep my fingers crossed. LOL.
 

NYreefNoob

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well welcome to the club, better to get a crash or semi melt down now then few thousand later in corals and fish. :) id would suggest getting a diatom filter and running it for few days, stir sand up blow rock's off ect. beat the ich attack by going fowler for few months , let all parisite's die off. definately suggest a better skimmer for such size tank, pic of the set up would help other's to help you. definately an enjoyable hobby at the end of the day. dont skimp now cause it will cost alot more later. best advice i ever recieved in the hobby. and not saying you need the most expensive equipt either, but solid products
 

motortrendz

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well if it make you feel any better i got a lil story for you.. i had a 120 non drilled tank that i had a beautiful reef in.. a lfs had a 125 starfire tank for sale for 125$ bc i had a very small leak..i bought it and put it in my garage till i was ready to make the switch, january i went away on vacation, came home to my house stinking like high hell, all my fish floating on the top baking under the halides and all my coral dead.. with no explination y.. so i figure soon id be switching everything over.. well abt 2 weeks ago i decided to reseal the 125 against everyones better judgment, i figured for the price i had to try...
so i reseal it and fill the tank partially bc the leak was at the bottom(not sure what i was thinking) so after a week its not leaking and i think i got a great deal.. i empty the water and start the multi day process of filling with the ro/di..
it get 3/4 full after 3 days and its leaking.. figures..but it gets better i drain the tank a friend comes over to help me try again, as we were lifting it off the stand to put it on the floor(with sand in the bottom) one of the bulkheads get caught on the stand, it wobbles and we lost it...kabooooom, now i got a million pieces of glass and 200lbs of smelly sand in my carpet, and need to get it cleaned before my wife comes home.. well now were a week past that and i came home with my 220g.. so here we go again... hope this helps..

and btw, welcome!! we all have our nightmare stories
p.s. o figured out y everything died when i was taking all the live rock out of the tank.. the heater came on and zap!!! it was cracked.. engineer goby must have "adjusted" my rocks again and it hit the heater!
 

JSweeney76

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Hamilton, NJ
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Thank you everyone for the support. My wife said the same thing; at least now I can do it the right way. Tank looks great with the new sand. I'll post some pics within the next couple of days. I was running late for work and didn't get a chance.

Motortrendz.... Wow. That's a shame. I'm guessing that you got it cleaned up before the wife came home. I know mine would most likely try and kill me. LOL. Good luck with the 220. Post some pics and we can compare set ups. What are you planning for lighting?

Thanks again all.
 

motortrendz

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yea got it cleaed up.. she thought i was done for a while but when she came home from work sat i had the 220, she was ready to kill me..lol i have a coralife light with 3-250watt mh and it has 4 36in pc.. but all the bulbs are burned..so im getting all ne stuff from russ at saltwater critters, one of the best guys on here.. hes in the vender list, but im gonna go with the 14,000k mh and the front 2 pc are gonna be the purple/blue and the rear are gonna be the 50/50s blue/white so that when the mh arent on the tank isnt totally blue, i dont care for that look.. what are u planning on doing?
 

JSweeney76

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Hamilton, NJ
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Is that the coralife aqualight pro?? It sounds like the same set up my buddy gave me that I can't use. I bought all of the bulbs for it and never used them. I still have them if you're interested. I bought four actinic power compacts and the three DE 14,000 (I think) HQIs. Let me know. Thanks.
 

JSweeney76

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Hamilton, NJ
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OK. So after I ended up replacing the protein skimmer with a reef octopus because the Berlin I had was SO underpowered, AND replacing the sump because the commercial sump broke, I am now experiencing a tremendous amount of black slime algae. I'm going to perform another water change this weekend and blow off all the algae. I'm also hooking up a phosphate reactor to my sump just in case. I know it's probably part of the cycle, but it still looks horrible. On top of that, I have the opportunity to get a 300 gallon setup that my wife will be making into a FOWLR (I lost that battle... LOL). We were talking about possible plumbing both systems together with a 55 gallon common refugium. Does anyone have experience in doing this? Any recommendations? Pros/Cons? Any information would be appreciated. Thanks. BTW, as soon as I get this slime algae under control, I'll post some pics.
 

JSweeney76

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Hamilton, NJ
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So I thought I had a pretty good handle on how to handle a reef and how to get decent growth from my corals. My tank looked healthy and seemed to be growing well. Then I went and saw KuyaMark's 120 reef. Wow do I have a LOT to learn. His stonies appear to be growing like weeds. He gave me a quick crash course on calcium and phosphate reactors, media, GFO, NO Biopellets, and the sort. This sparked an idea that I think I'm going to plumb my upstairs 75 reef and my downstairs 210 reef together with a common 55 gallon refugium. This will leave the 300 gallon FOWLR by itself and won't mess my nitrates up (something I really didn't think of since I've never had a FOWLR before).

On top of that, I've been getting a black slime algae growing in my 210 and didn't really know where it was coming from. He suggested that is was from the hydrogen sulfide that came from the original sand and that I should take out all the rock, dry them in the sun for a week, rinse them off, and start all over again. While this is going to suck big time, I'll do what it takes in order to make this set up work. I'll post pics as the project progresses. Thanks.
 

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