CORL's 1000 Man training proposal

[mkirda]

I have converted the guts of the proposal over.
Mike King indicated that the version I have was an earlier one: The final one was trimmed a bit, but was lost in a hard drive crash. Hence the numbers being a bit higher than 350K.

Without further ado:

Timeline

Two teams of trainers doing 30 villages in 12 months.
Total time: 15 months, including following up with the villages.

Trainers:
Salary $125 per day for 200 days
Per Diem: $25 per day
Air Fare: $2000 (two trips from US)
PI transportation: Figuring 20 moves at $75 each.
Total budgeted: $62,500

I. TRAINING PROPER
1 Training Materials
a 1020 participant @ 2500.00P/collector*
b Food for the participants@ 250P/pax 14 days

2 Others
a Boat Rental 1,500P 143 days each team
b Boat Fuel 21.50P 143 days each team

Total: $62,500.00

Not shown: Ecosystem assessment and planning breakdown
Total: $36,000.00


II. Administrative and Documentation
a Communication 1000P
b Documentation 1500P
c Office Supplies 500P
d office in PI $4,500
e 2 office personnel $7,700

1 Per Diem
Field Supervisor 750P 195 days
Liaison Officer 500P 120 days
Community Specialist/Enterprise 450P 195 days
Trainers 450P 195 days
Marine Biologist 500P 120 days

2 Honorariums/Salaries
Field Supervisor 2000P 350 days
Community Specialist/Enterprise 750P 350 days
Trainers 600P 250 days

3 Resource Assessment
Trainers 450P 52 days
a Equipment Rental 1200P 52 days
b Boat Rental 1200P 52 days
c Boat Fuel 21.50P 52 days

4 LGU Link-ups and Coordination
Field Supervisor 750P 15days
Community Specialist/Enterprise 450P 26 days

5 Program Acceptance
Field Supervisor 750P 13 days
Community Specialist 450P 2 days
Training Component Total $198,087.96

6 Monitoring/Community Enterprise/Certification
Field Supervisor 750P 390 days
Trainers 450P 390 days
Community Specialist/Enterprise 450P 390 days
Equipment 40000P 390 days
Boat rentals and gas 1500P 200 days
equipment rentals 750P 200 days
Monitoring/Community Enterprise/Certification Total $49,564.81

Not including CORL admin expenses. Also, have not broken out internal transportation costs, but those are included in the totals.



Grand total: $388,352.78 with CORL Admin
Grand total without Ecosystem support: $297,544.63

Estimated costs for outfitting each collector with materials (sans netting)
2500P

FYI: The exchange rate is still roughly 52-52P per 1 USD.

All of this is Copywritten by Mike King and CORL, and reproduced here with his permission.

Regards.
Mike Kirda

 

[Anonymous]

Looks more like a budget than a proposal. That aside, was something comparable to this directly submitted to MAC? I understand that a draft something-or-other was sent to John Brandt for his comment, but was anything directly sent to the MAC office in Hawaii?

-Lee

 

[mkirda]

Looks more like a budget than a proposal.

Lee,

This is apparently what survived the HD crash. I understand from Mike that this is an earlier draft of the budget, where they were still hammering out the details on costs and where to train. I have seen the full large proposal: It is a hefty 9 or 10 pages, followed by a few pages of budgetary info. Mike King has told me that I cannot release this proposal. It may still be pending, and I am guessing that he does not want it in the public domain.

(It is not unheard of to have a group pull the top page off a proposal, substituting their own, then submitting it as their own and getting funding... So I understand and will respect his wishes.)

More than this, direct your questions to Mike King. I probably cannot answer them...

Regards.
Mike Kirda

 

[Anonymous]

Mike King? Any details?

 

[kylen]

Using simple math;

2 training teams for 30 villages in twelve months
-that is 15 villages per team in 12 mths

Each trainer is paid a salary and per diem for 200 days
- I am assuming this is paid training days.

This would allow for a little over 13 days of training per village.

Is this enough time to train a village adequately to ensure that no backsliding occurs? Is the 200 days paid to trainers included in the follow up? If yes, this would allow for even less training.

 

[devils advocate]

Certification???

How is this different from MAC? Is there a CDT?

 

[mkirda]

Certification???

How is this different from MAC? Is there a CDT?

This proposal was strictly for net training. The Ecosystem component was for mapping, doing quadrant sampling, helping to create an ecosystem management plan, etc.

This is strictly bare bones net-training, handling, and ecosystem management planning.

Regards.
Mike Kirda

 

[devils advocate]

Mike,

Certification...your words not mine.

 

[Mike King]

Any questions can be e-mailed to me at [email protected] be advised it may take a week or two to get back to them as my work load untill the end of September is nutz! I will also be off island for a few weeks in August and unable to answer until I return.
Sorry but my work here and for CORL must come first.
I'll review the summery for the net training and may post it later this week.

Mike King

 

[Anonymous]

Mr. King,

It does not take two weeks to tell me whether you submitted the proposal to MAC or not.

Chose one of the following:

1) Yes, I sent a formal proposal/budget very similar to this to the Marine Aquarium Council in Honolulu, Hawaii.

2) No, I did not.

There, it is simple.

-Lee

 

[Anonymous]

Lee-

Give Mike a brake, it may be that easy for you to rip out an email while working in your little cozy lab in OK on salary, but in Samoa and other remote islands it is not (I don't see you giving up ALL your roots, and moving to an south pacific island to work on environmental problems with very little starting $$$). Mike is working, WORKING OK? He probably won't be near an internet connection for a while, or he might just BE TO BUSY TO LOOK AT THIS FORUM OR RESPOND TO IT. This forum isn't his partner, his BOD, his boss nor his wife, he has ZERO obligations to this site. If he say's it'll take some time to respond to this forum, its his own right to do so. Paul H. has been asked a million questions, and he's NEVER responded once. Some people don't make this forum their life, you can't force them to do so. Take a week off, you'll see theres more to life then this forum.

 

[mkirda]

I understand a response was made to Lee within 24 hours, privately.

Regards.
Mike Kirda

 

[Anonymous]

GreshamH:

Please understand the context of frustration under which I posted what I did in this topic thread on July 15th:

I was disappointed to see the apparent dissolution of negotiations between CORL and MAC to do joint net training with AMDA. There appeared to even be some controversy about whether the proposal was properly received by MAC or not. Hoping that this was some sort of misunderstanding between the parties I asked a simple question of Mike King here July 14th: "where was the proposal sent?" I did not want specific details about the proposal or even a lengthy answer. Instead of a reply to my simple question we all received, on July 15th, Mike King's message to take it off-board to private email and that it might take a week or more to get a reply.

Without any interest in publicly discussing possible ways to resolve the impasse the joint project is indeed finished before it started. Also, the AMDA net training project suffers a setback which is sad.

One last comment, as a geologist specializing in environmental remediation, pollution prevention, and waste minimization I have spent many, many long days in the field and years away from home in service of the environment.

Sincerely,
Lee

 

[Anonymous]

I understand a response was made to Lee within 24 hours, privately.

Regards.
Mike Kirda

Mike Kirda,

While it is true that Mr. King responded to me via email within 24 hours there are still several questions that I posed to him that he has not replied to.

Sincerely,
Lee

 

[Anonymous]

Mike King got back to me with answers to my remaining questions last night. If anyone is still curious about this topic please contact Mr. King via email.

-Lee