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I for one am looking forward too bubble eye and pom pom clown fish.
 

flameangel1

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It's not uncommon for cultured clownfish to have pug faces, shortened fins, missing or incomplete gill covers, spinal deformities and swim bladder problems.

For any hobbyist etc reading this- in nature there are deformed animals born all the time ,also. But they do not live long enough for most people to ever see them. " Cultured " animals do not have predators to cull them, so we do see them.
 

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flameangel":1t5ihgof said:
It's not uncommon for cultured clownfish to have pug faces, shortened fins, missing or incomplete gill covers, spinal deformities and swim bladder problems.

For any hobbyist etc reading this- in nature there are deformed animals born all the time ,also. But they do not live long enough for most people to ever see them. " Cultured " animals do not have predators to cull them, so we do see them.

Judy,

I can't entirely agree with your statement. Of course mutations occur in nature, and in many cases they do not survive or are subject to predation. The deformities that the cultured clowns exhibit don't much apply. I would suggest that many (most?) of these deformities are artifacts of the captive breeding process, and are not clearly understood.

Odd Coloration and Markings: Certainly there is variation in wild clownfish color and markings. But cultured clownfish coloration and markings seem to vary to a much greater extent. There is no good explanation for why color or markings would be "culled" in nature.

Pug Faces: This is not seen in wild clowns. There is no good reason to expect wild clowns with pug faces to be "culled".

Shortened Fins & Deformed Gill Covers: These deformities seem not to affect the fish's survivability. Why would they be "culled" in the wild?

Spinal Deformities & Swim Bladder Problems: These mutations may very well be "culled" in the wild as they could affect survivability and likelihood of predation.

Keep in mind that these cultured deformities occur in the offspring of apparently normal broodstock.
 

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John,,
Not trying to start any confrontation here, but I can assure you that any animal /fish /bird etc,exhibiting a difference in shape or coloration etc, will be "taken" much quicker by a predator.
Reason is, they "stand out" to that predator!!

This is nature and why the best animals of any given breed are the survivors who DO breed the next generation of their species.
Genetics does play a strong role and cultured gene pools are much smaller than in the wild.
But, I still feel it is best to buy/stock/sell cultured animals where ever possible, instead of taking them from the wild !!!
 

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Mitch,

Can you ride to work at Fishy Business in this?
 

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Well, what that picture doesn't show you is the gimpy fin on the opposite side of the fish, so I'd say only 10 knots/gallon...if you can get the fin fixed, it ups to 25 knots/gallon...

Peace,

Chip
 

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