Hello Folks,
I have a few questions/curiousitites where I feel the diversity of experiences on this board may help to shed more information on*.
1. Has anyone used an LED fixture for 50,000 hours or 5 years and NOT noticed a spectrum change and/or a change in performance to your standards prior?
I ask this one because I know many folks talk about LEDs and their greatness (beyond the basic bioluminescence i.e. color pop) but most folks I know and at least from timelines I see across a variety of hobbyist and research boards...many do not actually hold on to the same fixture for anywhere near that many hours/time frame without a changeout or upgrade or some deviation which disallows the ability to track information towards the LED industry claim. I ask this question from curiosity, not as a hater.
2. Pumps/powerheads...has any one noticed the fact that the resale threads for Ecotech i.e. MP40 and Maxspect Gyre typically say "new motor' or "new/extra wetside" or something akin to recently serviced???
If you are the 1st owner of an MP or Gyre (or whatever else) and within the 1 yr warranty have had something as MAJOR as a wetside (replacement cost of at least $75 not including tax/shipping) or a motor (not sure of the cost for a gyre motor) then what level of comfort do you think I as the potential 2nd owner have with this product considering the warranty is likely invalid once you resell it to me? Considering the fact that hobbyists to hobbyist is not typically considered as a valid authorized reseller...I would have to HOPE that IF and ONLY IF you still have warranty privileges that you allow me as the 2nd owner to use it THROUGH YOU. Otherwise...I am stuck with a product that is already known to have defects that need to be addressed within 1-3 years.
So, given #1 and 2, how do people ethically sell/resell 'important' (you define that, but I am referring to items that could impact whether or not your organisms live/your home stays intact) reef equipment??
I am contemplating these things as I make a 6-8mos long build to a 300g tank and 100g sump in my basement. This move allows me the opportunity to work hard to get sales, to track and redefine for myself, what is worth buying used and not, etc.
Obviously, I am finding that most of the integral stuff...simply may not be worth buying used. However, of course, folks are definitely still reselling at a cost that is in my opinion, giving the risk, too high.
*Keep in mind I said information, I did not say facts vs opinion or real/sound research, etc.
I have a few questions/curiousitites where I feel the diversity of experiences on this board may help to shed more information on*.
1. Has anyone used an LED fixture for 50,000 hours or 5 years and NOT noticed a spectrum change and/or a change in performance to your standards prior?
I ask this one because I know many folks talk about LEDs and their greatness (beyond the basic bioluminescence i.e. color pop) but most folks I know and at least from timelines I see across a variety of hobbyist and research boards...many do not actually hold on to the same fixture for anywhere near that many hours/time frame without a changeout or upgrade or some deviation which disallows the ability to track information towards the LED industry claim. I ask this question from curiosity, not as a hater.
2. Pumps/powerheads...has any one noticed the fact that the resale threads for Ecotech i.e. MP40 and Maxspect Gyre typically say "new motor' or "new/extra wetside" or something akin to recently serviced???
If you are the 1st owner of an MP or Gyre (or whatever else) and within the 1 yr warranty have had something as MAJOR as a wetside (replacement cost of at least $75 not including tax/shipping) or a motor (not sure of the cost for a gyre motor) then what level of comfort do you think I as the potential 2nd owner have with this product considering the warranty is likely invalid once you resell it to me? Considering the fact that hobbyists to hobbyist is not typically considered as a valid authorized reseller...I would have to HOPE that IF and ONLY IF you still have warranty privileges that you allow me as the 2nd owner to use it THROUGH YOU. Otherwise...I am stuck with a product that is already known to have defects that need to be addressed within 1-3 years.
So, given #1 and 2, how do people ethically sell/resell 'important' (you define that, but I am referring to items that could impact whether or not your organisms live/your home stays intact) reef equipment??
I am contemplating these things as I make a 6-8mos long build to a 300g tank and 100g sump in my basement. This move allows me the opportunity to work hard to get sales, to track and redefine for myself, what is worth buying used and not, etc.
Obviously, I am finding that most of the integral stuff...simply may not be worth buying used. However, of course, folks are definitely still reselling at a cost that is in my opinion, giving the risk, too high.
*Keep in mind I said information, I did not say facts vs opinion or real/sound research, etc.