You know, Chief, I understand where you are coming from and for the most part I agree with you. Now while this may not necessarily apply to vendors as much as to sponsors, but how about sponsors offering a MR discount? ( Ignore if this is already done ) I notice that on many other forums with large, active memberships, such as RC, many of the sponsors will offer member discounts, either always or from time to time. That would definately help generate more business from MR members and is a better incentive for people to support vendors. For the vendors, I realize that most of them already offer great prices ( at least on livestock ) to the members.