Whole Foods Market backs sustainable food fisheries program

[Bill2]

I was starting to think I was paranoid.

Phew, I was starting to think you were paranoid too 8O

Jeeze it was a joke. I guess John can't make a joke now. NO JOKES FOR YOU!

I now bequeeth myself as the joke Nazi!

 

[dizzy]

Bill,
I thought it was a joke too.

 

[Anonymous]

Or how about this as a suggestion. If someone says something you don't like, respond any way you'd like by a PM. There is no reason to constantly bicker back and forth about who said what and who meant what. Give them the benefit of the doubt and ask them in private. If after you've done that and you still feel offended take it up with one of the mods, or an admin whoever you feel can handle the situation most appropriately. The grand standing and jockeying for postion is completely unneccessary and is completely counter-productive. We're all adults here, if you have a problem with some one, handle it in private.

 

[MaryHM]

Exactly Rover. And I am in talks with John behind the scenes trying to get him to retract an earlier statement he made. This is precisely why I couldn't understand his comment as he knows I am quite upset with his actions right now. Am I being a little touchy about it? You bet, considering the current circumstances of our private talks. I'm done talking about this now, and hope everyone else is too. Let's try getting back to the issues. I know it's not as exciting as the drama, but really, let's try.

 

[John_Brandt]

So MAC is paying for the English-speaking secretary, via a grant?
And is MAC also paying the difference in price to the collectors? I understood that a maroon clownfish went wholesale for less than 50 cents. Is MAC paying the Batasan Island collectors the extra $2 per piece out of grants to get the price up to the $2.50 (as it shows on it's website)?

http://www.aquariumcouncil.org/docs/lib ... rticle.PDF
states this:
"A year ago, when the fish would probably have been caught with cyanide, the common tomato clown might have earned Sitoy 75 U.S. cents. Today the business manager credits Sitoy's account with $2.50 for the crimson-colored fish. Such a sale price increase means a lot to Sitoy and his family."

If it is on the MAC website, can't it be assumed that it is 'certified' to be true?

If this is "The truth", then why do the three of the MAC-certified exporters, all say that they would go out of business if they had to pay $2.50 for a maroon (or tomato or any) clownfish?

I'm inclined to trust the exporters over MAC on this one.
It also makes me question the veracity of all other bits of 'information' on the MAC website.

Regards.
Mike Kirda

Mike,

Yes, the English-speaking secretary is paid with grant money, just like all of the staff are. She is Isabelle Cruz, MAC Philippines Office Administrative Assistant. It makes complete sense to have a bilingual administrative assistant in the MAC Philippine office. The MAC Certifications Systems Director Peter Scott is a Brit in the Philippines, and the MAC USA Staff all speak English.

You know those price figures for the clownfish are wrong. We've gone over this before. It was written by the author, not MAC.

 

[MaryHM]

You know those price figures for the clownfish are wrong. We've gone over this before. It was written by the author, not MAC.

Then shouldn't MAC either remove the article or put a disclaimer next to the link stating the lies??? This is a serious problem I have with MAC. They have absolutely no problem at all supporting/endorsing/creating falsehoods as long as it gives them good PR. You keep saying MAC is aware of the blatant problems in the articles they post on their website. Why aren't they doing anything about it?

 

[My Hairy Ass]

What does all this have to do with Whole Foods and the MSC?

I would like to know more about that, not whether MAC have a bilingual secretary! Most Filipinas in Manila (and MANY other places) are bilingual!

 

[mkirda]

You know those price figures for the clownfish are wrong. We've gone over this before. It was written by the author, not MAC.

John,

Yes, I was the one who pointed out that the prices were a fabrication.

We have gone over it before, with a representative from MAC present.

Yet this falsehood remains on their website, weeks after being pointed out to MAC, and MONTHS after being pointed out to the author.

So, MAC posts blatant falsehoods on their web site.
Begs the question... What else is wrong?... Doesn't it?

It does me...

Regards.
Mike Kirda