How much live rock is enough? - Page 6

**jhale** · 11-03-2006, 12:30 PM

I forgot about the acro eating starfish

jackson6745 · 11-03-2006, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by jhale


	I forgot about the acro eating starfish

You have to explore every possibility

I just want to figure out exactly why my acros were dying so I can avoid it in the future. Why do you think my corals died J?

**jhale** · 11-03-2006, 01:58 PM

rusty screws
AEFW
AES
Skimmer change
Higher nutrient load
Change from CA reactor to Randy's 2 Part
was there anything else?
now sand , lol.

I don't know, we all have similar corals in similar set ups.

I had crazy nitrates and a large bio load with a skimmer that was too small for the load. My corals grew and did not die till I got worms.

I think your tank got hit with too many changes at once.
Anyone of them could have crashed a tank.
I'm not sure what was the straw that broke your corals back.
what did you do to piss off the reef Gods?

How is the tank now? stable? growing, colors? levels all good?

jackson6745 · 11-03-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jhale


	How is the tank now? stable? growing, colors? levels all good?

Point taken

Yeah its all good now

**jhale** · 11-03-2006, 02:09 PM

was not really a point, more of an observation

good that our tanks are both stable again.
I thought you were going to have a softy tank forever

jackson6745 · 11-03-2006, 02:15 PM

Softies

**jhale** · 11-03-2006, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scarf_ace1981


	i plan to get a 120 soon and i plan to make it very open w/ just 7 or so large pieces of LR. now this thread has me thinking one thing i can do is put LR in the sump thus allowing for filtration but also letting me have the open space i was looking for in the display. it will have to be a big sump though. i didn't plan to do that until now. that's why i love MR. so much info and ideas.

jon if you do this make sure to elevate the rock and leave room to siphon out the junk that will collect under it.
otherwise you will be creating a nitrate trap in the sump.

**ShaunW** · 11-03-2006, 02:32 PM

Rich, I think you had the "Perfect Storm" of events in your tank, such that they all aided in harming your corals. Kind of like, when it rains it pours.

I would not mess with it, let it stabilze. BTW I added a remote DSB to my sump. I now have a BB main tank with a filter sock between a DSB sump/macroalgae growth site/refugium. I think that it is the best of all worlds for SPS, IMO.

ccr · 03-01-2007, 11:28 PM

In my reading and experience a combination of live rock and good skimming contribute to a reef tank's success. Are you asking the question because you want to avoid using rock?

A larger amount of LR is analogous to greater water volume - they both allow greater tolerance for mistakes. I suspect if you go with a small amount of LR, your success will increase if you are willing to do greater and more frequent water changes.

I have 45 pounds of LR in a 30 gallon breeder tank. Even with that, I have room for corals and a light load of fish.

11-03-2006, 12:30 PM	#51
jhale paper bags are fun! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: G.V NYC Posts: 15,167 Reefer Ratings: (43) Friends: (32)	I forgot about the acro eating starfish __________________ FS: Aquamedic dosing pump, MH250 ballast, wavemaker

11-03-2006, 01:58 PM	#53
jhale paper bags are fun! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: G.V NYC Posts: 15,167 Reefer Ratings: (43) Friends: (32)	rusty screws AEFW AES Skimmer change Higher nutrient load Change from CA reactor to Randy's 2 Part was there anything else? now sand , lol. I don't know, we all have similar corals in similar set ups. I had crazy nitrates and a large bio load with a skimmer that was too small for the load. My corals grew and did not die till I got worms. I think your tank got hit with too many changes at once. Anyone of them could have crashed a tank. I'm not sure what was the straw that broke your corals back. what did you do to piss off the reef Gods? How is the tank now? stable? growing, colors? levels all good? __________________ FS: Aquamedic dosing pump, MH250 ballast, wavemaker

11-03-2006, 02:09 PM	#55
jhale paper bags are fun! Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: G.V NYC Posts: 15,167 Reefer Ratings: (43) Friends: (32)	was not really a point, more of an observation good that our tanks are both stable again. I thought you were going to have a softy tank forever __________________ FS: Aquamedic dosing pump, MH250 ballast, wavemaker

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03-01-2007, 11:28 PM	#59
ccr Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Long Island Posts: 11 Reefer Ratings: (1) Friends: (0)	In my reading and experience a combination of live rock and good skimming contribute to a reef tank's success. Are you asking the question because you want to avoid using rock? A larger amount of LR is analogous to greater water volume - they both allow greater tolerance for mistakes. I suspect if you go with a small amount of LR, your success will increase if you are willing to do greater and more frequent water changes. I have 45 pounds of LR in a 30 gallon breeder tank. Even with that, I have room for corals and a light load of fish.