Miracle Mud
- Thread starter deadfish
- Start date
- Location
- Brooklyn, NY
cool, let me be the first to welcome u to MR....
- Location
- BROOKLYN NY 11214
Welcome DEADFISH
Welcome to MR Dead Fish !!!
Most of us dont us Miracle mud .I had in my tank for 2 years ,then took it out .my tank has been doing them.You can you reg sand it that the direction you want o go ,or leave it bear bottom (no sand or mud)
Well enjoy the site ,go slow with the hobby ,and ask question as you are to help you get the best equpimnet the 1st time and not but it 3 time before you stick with what you bought
Ronen
Most of us dont us Miracle mud .I had in my tank for 2 years ,then took it out .my tank has been doing them.You can you reg sand it that the direction you want o go ,or leave it bear bottom (no sand or mud)
Well enjoy the site ,go slow with the hobby ,and ask question as you are to help you get the best equpimnet the 1st time and not but it 3 time before you stick with what you bought
Ronen
- Location
- BROOKLYN NY 11214
I guess not many MR member use the MUD Hope this'll help
http://www.reefs.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=28&t=000029
http://www.reefs.org/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=28&t=000029
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- Location
- Queens/Flushing/Whitestone/NYC
:groupflip WELCOME TO MR Harry :groupflip
Not much people use it here in MR.
How's your tank going? Is it up yet?
Not much people use it here in MR.
How's your tank going? Is it up yet?
Deadfish, Read this article, its an analaysist on miracle mud.
Conclusions
The analysis indicates that Miracle Mud is 30% silicon. This mostly likely exists in Miracle Mud as silicon dioxide, which is most commonly found in nature as quartz. As pointed out by chemist Randy Holmes-Farley, the molecular weight of silicon makes up less than half the molecular weight of silicon dioxide. So if the silicon present is all in the form of silicon dioxide, then Miracle Mud is more than 63% quartz sand. This seems to be confirmed by the photos.
The high levels of metals (especially Aluminum, Iron and Titanium) are also a point of concern.
"In addition, no traces of any marine sediment were found in any microscopic examination - no oolitic sand grains, no shell fragments, no diatoms or any other remnants of marine life. An acid test conducted by Shane Graber indicates that no carbonates are present in Miracle Mud. It is difficult to reconcile these facts with the manufacturer's claim that "Miracle Mud is 80% oceanic mud.""
http://www.inlandreef.com/Testing/MManalysis.html
Conclusions
The analysis indicates that Miracle Mud is 30% silicon. This mostly likely exists in Miracle Mud as silicon dioxide, which is most commonly found in nature as quartz. As pointed out by chemist Randy Holmes-Farley, the molecular weight of silicon makes up less than half the molecular weight of silicon dioxide. So if the silicon present is all in the form of silicon dioxide, then Miracle Mud is more than 63% quartz sand. This seems to be confirmed by the photos.
The high levels of metals (especially Aluminum, Iron and Titanium) are also a point of concern.
"In addition, no traces of any marine sediment were found in any microscopic examination - no oolitic sand grains, no shell fragments, no diatoms or any other remnants of marine life. An acid test conducted by Shane Graber indicates that no carbonates are present in Miracle Mud. It is difficult to reconcile these facts with the manufacturer's claim that "Miracle Mud is 80% oceanic mud.""
http://www.inlandreef.com/Testing/MManalysis.html
DeadFish
Ive used MM on my 90 for a yr an half ,now i took it out
i see no diff except my sump is clean
I use garf grung and cheato with my skimmer in my sump instead of the mud.
75 bow is a great size .You might go bigger when you get more into the hobby ,Its the reef bug watch out it get you fast
Ive used MM on my 90 for a yr an half ,now i took it out
i see no diff except my sump is clean
I use garf grung and cheato with my skimmer in my sump instead of the mud.
75 bow is a great size .You might go bigger when you get more into the hobby ,Its the reef bug watch out it get you fast
- Location
- Queens/Flushing/Whitestone/NYC
deadfish said:
Hahah, took you forever though :turtle:....Steve can set that up in less than a week :lol2::lol2::lol2:
As for miracle mudd, I say it's kind of waste on the $$$. But if you want to try it, it's no harm. But i would put my money somewhere else. Have lots of fun and good luck.
Oh, your in trouble, joining MR means, emptying your wallet. You'll get to know more and buy more....lolz
- Location
- Forest Hills
I use MM, but only in the beginning stages. I wanted to find out for myself if it is what they claim. I've heard n seen good reefs being supported by them. I've also read many on forum trashing it. In this hobby, you will encounter many issues like this.
Rule of thumb::: Do your own research and decide for yourself. Don't just go with 1 source.
Rule of thumb::: Do your own research and decide for yourself. Don't just go with 1 source.
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DEEPWATER said:
for the past year and half. did you have any DEADFISHES? of course, u might have some. if only few, then the mud work for me. i know some people using the skimmer have DEADFISHES problems. so that's why i would like to try the mud. also what kind of bug to talk about?
- Location
- Forest Hills
i think he meant the addiction(the bug) to this reef hobby. :lol2:DEEPWATER said:
- Location
- NY
deadfish, WELCOME TO MR!
IMO, if you wanted to give the MM a try, you should set it up in a refugium setup that you plumb remotely and isolated from your display. This way if you found out down the road that you wanted to remove it, you would not have to concern yourself with tearing down your entire tank (or a major part of it). All you'd have to do would be to take your fuge off line and remove the MM.
I agree with reefman, I believe Deepwater was referring to 'catching the bug' = getting addicted to the reefing hobby.
A 72 bow is a great size starter tank. My very first (and still largest) tank is/was a 75.
Good luck and ask questions.
swimmer
IMO, if you wanted to give the MM a try, you should set it up in a refugium setup that you plumb remotely and isolated from your display. This way if you found out down the road that you wanted to remove it, you would not have to concern yourself with tearing down your entire tank (or a major part of it). All you'd have to do would be to take your fuge off line and remove the MM.
I agree with reefman, I believe Deepwater was referring to 'catching the bug' = getting addicted to the reefing hobby.
A 72 bow is a great size starter tank. My very first (and still largest) tank is/was a 75.
Good luck and ask questions.
swimmer
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