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Stuff, doesn't look good on us :-( link to read
- Thread starter Jakef150
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I will believe that no damage has been done when I see underwater videos. As far as marine life goes, 200 feet is not really "void of life".
"They did not explode", "They are small so it is fine", "There is way worse happening" are bad excuses for dumping anything on an endangered location. I do hope they manage to salvage them, because nobody has any idea how the metals will react to a long exposure to salt water, currents, pressure etc.
ps: obviously nothing in comparison to the poison-covered hulls of the coal carrying boats... but still... when I see a big pile of dump in the wild I do not throw crap at it telling "yeah it's not my little crap that will do much compared to what is already done".
"They did not explode", "They are small so it is fine", "There is way worse happening" are bad excuses for dumping anything on an endangered location. I do hope they manage to salvage them, because nobody has any idea how the metals will react to a long exposure to salt water, currents, pressure etc.
ps: obviously nothing in comparison to the poison-covered hulls of the coal carrying boats... but still... when I see a big pile of dump in the wild I do not throw crap at it telling "yeah it's not my little crap that will do much compared to what is already done".
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- Greenpoint Brooklyn, NY
This thread is amazing and scary at the same time. So much blind speculation happening here its not even funny and these people can vote too :scratchch
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I think the issue is not that they dropped four bombs (technically two bombs, and two fakes), but more about: why the hell do they call this a preserved space and decide to let boats and planes roam in the area? When Israel owned a part of the Red Sea (that has since been "given back" to Egypt as Ras Muhamad National Park) all shipping traffic was forbidden around the area.
Military operations should avoid it, especially in the case of an exercise.
As for speculation, I will believe the no damage when I see actual scientific results showing there were none.
I come from France and when Chernobyl hapened, the government was seriously explaining that the clouds had stopped at the "natural borders". Since then I have learned to take every "nah nothing happened" with a grain of salt.
ps: obviously this incident is nothing in comparison to that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Great_Barrier_Reef_oil_spill
Military operations should avoid it, especially in the case of an exercise.
As for speculation, I will believe the no damage when I see actual scientific results showing there were none.
I come from France and when Chernobyl hapened, the government was seriously explaining that the clouds had stopped at the "natural borders". Since then I have learned to take every "nah nothing happened" with a grain of salt.
ps: obviously this incident is nothing in comparison to that: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_Great_Barrier_Reef_oil_spill
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- Greenpoint Brooklyn, NY
Understandable but your also speculating that the worst is happening because of some past experience with an old socialist/communist/whatever govt. Instead there should be more people discussing intelligently the causes and effects of what happened. If there was some intelligent discussion and some better reading comprehension going on there wouldn't be so many doomsday prophecies on what happened at the reef. The article explained as well as tons of others on the subject that these were inoperable bombs, yet there are like 5 people still talking about them blowing up. Its funny but also moreso very very scary. I would be more worried about that in itself than a few bombs that WERE operable and detonated on the reef.
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Of course they are not going to blow up. Especially since two are duds. Or if those did, someone would get a Nobel prize for finding out that mixing Salt Water, mud and concrete makes a dangerous explosive.
However without calling "ahhh catastrophe it's the end" one may wonder why planes and huge boats are allowed in that area. Actually, if I remember correctly, Australia was under heavy criticism recently because of that.
See here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/02/us-australia-environment-reef-idUSBRE85103T20120602
There is also an article from March explaining that they planned to export their uranium with boats who will travel in the area of the GRB.
On a lighter note: how long does it take for a dud to turn into live rock?
However without calling "ahhh catastrophe it's the end" one may wonder why planes and huge boats are allowed in that area. Actually, if I remember correctly, Australia was under heavy criticism recently because of that.
See here: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/06/02/us-australia-environment-reef-idUSBRE85103T20120602
There is also an article from March explaining that they planned to export their uranium with boats who will travel in the area of the GRB.
On a lighter note: how long does it take for a dud to turn into live rock?
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- Staten Island
Just to add something
#1 my comment was 100% sarcastic (in case some of you didn't get the joke)
#2 In all seriousness they could be nuclear or explosive for all we know..would this be the first time the government has lied to us? I'm not trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory but we only know what the government/media wants to tell us so it potentially could be worse than they are making it sound. None of us know the "real" facts so I would take this article with a grain of salt.
#1 my comment was 100% sarcastic (in case some of you didn't get the joke)
#2 In all seriousness they could be nuclear or explosive for all we know..would this be the first time the government has lied to us? I'm not trying to turn this into a conspiracy theory but we only know what the government/media wants to tell us so it potentially could be worse than they are making it sound. None of us know the "real" facts so I would take this article with a grain of salt.
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