Think my Engineer has ich

[sun1914]

Today out the blue he broke out in these white spots. Not the best pic but hope u guys can see.

No QT to place him in, what do u guys suggest?



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[Rookie2reef]

I would put ich treatment in your tank the reef safe one, it's supposed to be natural so it don't hurt coral, reef safe

 

[duromega]

I have a hospital tank
let me know if you want to save his life

 

[sun1914]

@duro what do you think, catch all the fish and bring them to you or just the one showing the signs of ich?

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[Ponyboy]

I tried rid ich did nothing
Put a bigger well properly sized uv and mixed food with garlic all better

 

[sun1914]

I'm running the mini uv on my Biocube and some how my fish has gotten what seems to be ich as of now.
I know the recommended flow for the mini uv is 100-200 gph and from my understanding the mj1200 puts out 295 so that have something to do with it.

Hoping one of my fellow renegades will help me out.

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[lnevo]

Get a valve on the mj1200

 

[sun1914]

Get a valve on the mj1200

I'm assuming you mean a valve like the ones that come with a reactor and not the small screw type that come with the pump.

If so not sure how it would fit in the chamber w/ a valve. not much room back there for the pump,uv and heater as it is...but i'm open to suggestions.

Ps. Thank you to Duromega for offering to hospitalize my Engineer but when I got home this afternoon he was looking worst and floating at the top of the tank which isn't like him at all so I took him to the LPS, hopefully they can treat him.

 

[dubs]

If I was u would just get rid of the goby those goby get big and they Cover any corals u have on u r sand bed something to think about

 

[lnevo]

If I was u would just get rid of the goby those goby get big and they Cover any corals u have on u r sand bed something to think about

+1. Everyone but me loves my orange diamond goby

On the valve you could use the built in one to slow it down

 

[KathyC]

@duro what do you think, catch all the fish and bring them to you or just the one showing the signs of ich?

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If one has ich, they all have ich.

A UV will only kill the ich parasites that goes through the unit (as you mentioned, also at the proper flow rate to kill them),. The downside is the parasite tend to settle to the substrate- so unless your intake is near the sand-bed and all of them go in there..you will continue to have ich in your tank.
To eliminate it from the tank, you need the tank to remain fishless for 8-10 weeks, and you will want to not move (trade/sell) any of your corals into another persons tank as ich can be spread that way

 

[sun1914]

As I hear it Ich is always present in a tank but it is factors such as temp, salinity etc that determine it becoming a problem.
The Engineer was a bit sick to begin with...A few months back (Oct- Nov I believe) he suffered some Cloudy Eye which I treated him for and he survived obliviously but the eye never healed.
I also noticed prior to doing my last water change that my salinity went up about .5 (1.031). Some already mixed salt water was added to the tank for top off for a few days...Once I noticed what was done I corrected it by doing a water change and lowering the salinity back to 1.026. Maybe the rapid progression and regression shocked the Goby's already weakened immune system cause the ich to take route.

My clowns and 6 LWrasse seem fine and show no signs of ich. I fed them some shrimp dipped in garlic today which them ate with no problem.

Not sure how to go about slowing down the flow of the MJ1200 to ensure the effectiveness of the uv. Anyone with Biocube experience have a suggestion, I'm listening.

 

[KathyC]

..and many will tell you that Ich is most definitely not present in all tanks.
Ich is a parasite, if it has never been introduced, then it cannot be present in a tank.
Yes, your weakest fish will likely show signs of it first, but the only ways you will know for sure if the others are affected is by either disecting their gills or waiting for it to fianlly show on their bodies. With the amount of ich visable on your goby, it is definitely in your tank unfortunately.
I like the following site for Ich info, myths, cures and suggestions. It isn't overly wordy and IMO the most accurate info to be found on the web.
http://atj.net.au/marineaquaria/marineich.html

please do take a few minutes and read the page I copied here

 

[acolaojr]

When I see signs of ich I run a ton of garlic through my juicer. Soak the pellets in the garlic juice and feed my fish with this for about two weeks. It hasn't failed me yet. I'm italian so I don't mind the smell but if you don't like the smell of garlic don't do it.

 

[sun1914]

When I see signs of ich I run a ton of garlic through my juicer. Soak the pellets in the garlic juice and feed my fish with this for about two weeks. It hasn't failed me yet. I'm italian so I don't mind the smell but if you don't like the smell of garlic don't do it.

How often did u feed?

 

[acolaojr]

once a day but thats because I'm only home enough for that

 

[marrone]

Garlic doesn't kill Ich, and you'll find now a days that most food has garlic in it. So, if the food already had garlic in it, and garlic kills Ich, then your fish shouldn't get ich but that's not the case.

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/pests/99516-ich.html

 

[lnevo]

More so there was recently a study published on RC that garlic can be harmful to fish. I'll post the link later.

 

[lnevo]

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2352039

 

[acolaojr]

Well that article clearly proves my methods wrong. However I have not lost a fish to ich or feeding garlic yet. To each their own.