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albano

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Lastly, I've been feeding LRS reef frenzy and had no issues. And I just got a few packs of the new LRS fish frenzy and all is going well, so far. I will keep an eye out for any wired stuff.

The person that posted the above info about LRF, has a very large, very expensive angelfish collection, he has worked WITH Larry of LRF, so I'd tend to believe him...he just posted this
Not a recent thing, it was discovered with the baby Gp..I mentioned it a few times...it really only affected me twice with them and not when it was first noticed...others reported it daily and stopped feeding it...
I noticed that many of my centropyge angels had white stringy poop, with bubbles during release, and they were totally healthy...I stopped feeding Larry's Reef Frenzy and the white stringy poop went away...

It doesn't seem to affect all fish and the severity seems to differ between fish...maybe it has something to do with the age of the fish?? I though I might be okay and the gp would be okay at this point, but that wasn't the case

I still feed it to the dt and large trigs and angels...plus spir brin, plankton, fresh seafood...

I just will not feed it to the GP or any centropyge angels...
 

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Shucked some clams and cracked open some mussels and mixed them with garlic. I let it marinate for awhile then froze it flat in double zip lock bags.

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I love this post thanks Paul, I feed my fish home made food almost exclusively.
Big bait clams I buy by the bushel to shuck for fishing, mussels, squid the whole squid minus the cartilage, roe from sea bass and other fish, mysis, most things I get when I'm on the boat. Grind it up and Fish really love it
 

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How do you guys shuck the mussels? I can shuck clams and oysters but these thin shells make that impossible. I hit them with a rubber hammer to break them and used a clam knife to cut the meat out after. It was a pita and the shells are sharp. I thought about lightly steaming them but thought it was better to have the meat raw.
 

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How do you guys shuck the mussels? I can shuck clams and oysters but these thin shells make that impossible. I hit them with a rubber hammer to break them and used a clam knife to cut the meat out after. It was a pita and the shells are sharp. I thought about lightly steaming them but thought it was better to have the meat raw.

partially freeze and they will open enough to get a knife in.
 

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Got 1/2 dozen of crazy gigantic calms for $3 yesterday, size of your fist. Can't wait to try it out later today, I hope I don't slice my fingers.......hahhaha! I hope my fish and corals will love it.

I hope my nitrate and phosphate don't go up too bad. :). or else i'll have to upgrade to a bubble king skimmer.
 

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The best food for fish is "whole" fish. Preferably tiny whole fish like salt water fry.
The fry to the left of this sleepy nurse shark would be perfect and that is what most fish on a reef live on. But they are hard to come by. Fish fillets, like we eat, is not the greatest food.


 

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Great info Paul and I agree with your opinion on underfeeding contributing to issues with health, immunity, HLLE, etc. It was great to finally meet you at NERAC last weekend! BTW- did you happen to notice the clarions in the "bubble" tank to the left of Joe's reef? The aquarist who manages that tank has stated they've been spawning constantly on our food. (I know its a shameless plug but it proves your point.)

When I did my talk last month at the Omaha, NE Zoo much of it was devoted exactly to the topic of nutritional deficiencies in captive aquariums. In an effort to maintain pristine water quality many home aquarists under feed or feed poor quality food with denatured (broken down) proteins that are nutritionally void in comparison to whole foods. This is why unmolested, chemically free and fresh seafood has a profound effect on eliciting a feeding response and health in the animal. I'm not just saying that about our food, but with any clam pulled fresh from the water like Paul recommends you are a step ahead of the game. Our supplementation with D. salina micro algae and beneficial probiotic bacteria is designed to specifically boost nutritional value and help fish metabolize and ingest the nutrients in the food as much as possible, knowing that some nutrients get "lost" due to freezing, thawing, processing, etc.

Obviously as food makers we are limited in the choices of raw ingredients, like you noted with the adductor muscle of the scallop verses the entire scallop. However, supplementation with whole organisms such as the Mysis, plankton, blackworms and fish eggs helps close the gap as best we can for a commercial food product.

As far as healthy fish = spawning fish I cannot argue there.

In 2015 LRS Foods became sponsors of the Rising Tide Conservation project and began to send food to the Tropical Aqua Lab at the University of Florida for testing and evaluation. The results have been remarkable with increased spawns and more robust larvae to say the least. Diversity of ingredients can have a marked benefit on overall health by providing as complete nutrition as possible in a captive aquarium. I guess the moral to the story is to feed often, feed varied ingredients and seek pure sources for foods.

The next post to this Melanarus Wrasse breeding success will mention the broodstock diet and I am eagerly awaiting it to post. ;) http://risingtideconservation.blogspot.com/2015/02/early-success-with-halichoeres-wrasse.html

While in NY for NERAC I had the opportunity to re-visit a handful of the G. personatus angels from the Hawaii project and they are growing up nicely! I have personally fed eleven (11) G. personatus in NY which have been feeding on LRS and other foods for months and seem to be doing just fine. Our third order arrived in Japan last week destined for some of the rarest fish on the planet including Narcosis and other angels. No deleterious effects have been reported since November when the first order arrived. https://youtu.be/vyshy0D8Ok4

Feed your fish and keep them happy! More water changes may be needed but your fish will thank you for it. You guys are lucky in NY you can get fresh seafood for DIY blends as many people in the US cannot.

Talk soon Paul!

Larry
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PS-Edit: For those interested here is a link to the post regarding black worms and fish eggs in our blends: http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum...renzy-blend-now-has-blackworms-fish-eggs.html
 
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Paul B

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Unfortunately i did not get to talk to you for very long. I don't know what I was doing but I was moving around a lot. I also left early as I got there at 9:00 and my friend owns 2 hotels five minutes from the Aquarium so I went there for a while.
I still use your food, especially now that there are worms in it. (I got to have worms) I also never endorce a food as I have never really been crazy about any of them, but I have been using the LRS food you sent me and I am happy to report that virtually all my paired fish are still spawning as they were on my own food which is just clams, worms and mysis. I alternate LRS food with my own. Of course your food is quicker for me to use because it is all right there in a bag and I don't have to cut the clams and suck up worms. All of my fish seem to love it except of course the pipefish, but they are picky eaters and usually order "Take Out". Most of the particles in the LRS food is also the correct size for my fish that range from clown gobies to a large copperband.
If I get to NERAC again next year I plan to go later and stay for the dinner. Maybe we could talk some more.
Again, nice to meet you.
Paul
 

MIKE NY

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Sorry I missed NERAC this year....I've been using LRS since it was first available here on the Island. When I first saw it and read the ingredients I gave it a try then saw all my fish eating it including all my finicky eaters. There are food particles sizes for all and been feeding it ever since.
 

Charley

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Hi Paul .... most of the hobbyists by now know you created the most ingenious target feeding invention for mandarins hatching baby brine shrimp and building and using the target feeder of yours.

Is there a second best option for those of us who do not have the time to hatch the shrimp? I see frozen fish roe might be an option? Can you target feed blackworms? I know you will say live is best. We all would agree but hoping you can lead us to the best non live option/target feeder.

If there was a second best option that keep mandarins alive consistently, it would benefit the hobby by pulling less of these out of the reefs since more of us will keep them around longer. Would like to think so anyway.......

Thanks Charley
 
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