heuerfan

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Just got this Asfur angel, check out the videos I just took.

Very hard to tell but he has flukes!
https://youtu.be/ajfi4ayCd7M

About two minutes into the dip you can See the flukes appear and start to die.
https://youtu.be/K3c3XV4jySw

All visible flukes are off and will now treat with prazipro in QT.
https://youtu.be/iYXa214FXlw

I used rodi water well aerated and heated and dipped for 6 minutes.

Make sure you do the dip :)
 

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What would happen if you just left the flukes? Would the fish eventually succumb to them, or could a healthy fish fight off damages?
 

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What would happen if you just left the flukes? Would the fish eventually succumb to them, or could a healthy fish fight off damages?

If you left them on the fish you would then introduce them into your tank, where some or all of your fish could get them. At that point they can be very tough to remove completely, as some lay eggs which are resistant against all kinds of medication. And even if you used medication you would never know if you still have them, as they're very small, sometimes you can't even see them with the naked eye, and some fish don't show any symptoms of having them until they die. Plus some of the symptoms are similar to Ich, so you may treat the fish as if it has Ich, which those treatments don't work for flukes.

Now whether a fish could live with them depends on the fish. Flukes can take a long time to kill a fish, sometime months. Some larger fish can survive with them and keep going while others can't. The big thing is once an infected fish stop eating, at that point it's very hard to get them to start again and they usually die from the flukes. It's a pretty bad parasite to get into your tank.
 
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heuerfan

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What would happen if you just left the flukes? Would the fish eventually succumb to them, or could a healthy fish fight off damages?

Unfortunately in my experience the fish will die. But prazipro usually treats flukes, there is one type of fluke that prazipro does not affect only hyposalinity. You need to do multiple treatments in case there are eggs that hatch.
 
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Neither copper or hypo has an effect on flukes, and Prazipro may work sometimes but it's a water down version of Praziquantel, and you're better off getting the power. It's not something that you want in your tank, as it's very hard to eliminate usually you go fishless.
 

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Think flukes are becoming more common in the hobby these days. Think it accounts for a lot of the mysterious or apparent sudden death. Would also suspect if you have a large tank with many fish and you don't qt/treat, your tank likely has flukes. If the infestation on the tank or the fish is bad it will be bad. If it's not bad and you keep up on diet, parameters, and it's not a stressful tank, it likely won't become bad.
Although these comments speak to flukes in general, and not to specific strains, or secondary infections that might be caused.
 

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Running hypo, at lest 1.0009 or lower, doesn't kill off gill flukes, only fresh water dips or bath will, and then neither will kill the eggs. Running hypo for ich may work but for gill flukes, is just a waste of time.

Great article regarding hypo as the best treatment for Neobenedenia flatworm (flukes), prazipro does not work based on this article and my own experience.

EFFECTIVELY KILLING FLUKES
To summarize, the best method for killing Neobenedenia skin flukes is to employ a hyposalinity treatment (<15ppt) for an adequate enough period of time (7+ days) so as to ensure that zero eggs or adults can survive.

https://reefs.com/2016/07/15/eliminating-saltwater-aquarium-skin-flukes-part-2/
 

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