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John,
Thanks for the post. It explains it perfectly .
"Concerns have been raised that export quotas are not based on the availability of scientific data????"
To people who value "science" as criteria for management policy I'd like to say...
Why yes child. Quotas are based on cash and gold watches.
Scientific, rational minds should understand the culture of corruption in Indonesia better than they do. Narrow, non interdisciplanary science is hardly a respected tradition there.
To proceed in this way is ineffective and irrational in the extreme. Scientists, NGOs and lily white people who have not had more experience "in country" need to become more street wise and hook up with the locals in order to be effective.
The problem is, they often do hook up with pale, urban locals who speak good English. People as equally out of touch.
This will allow for a good 'Warren report" but it will not get the job done.
Sincerely, Steve
'White, middle class American...and very aware of that fact when working in other peoples countries.
 

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Steve, do you find it interesting that yet another study went out looking for unsustainable coral harvesting .........and again came up with squat? The final conclusions in these reports always end with a {high pitched voice} "well, we didn't find any evidence of harm ... BUT that doesn't mean there is not any " The ecosystems are TOO complex and maybe somewhere there is a reef harmed by the live coral trade"and we need to further study the impacts" .........Why cant these researchers ever be man enough to openly admit that they went looking and came up empty? What percentage of the worlds reefs even have coral collection at all? Ten percent? what percentage of the live coral on any reef is even colletable?.......three percentage......? "the sky is falling " the sky is falling" :wink:
 
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Hey guys,

This is getting into the new Weekly Discussion topic. Feel free to keep posting to this thread, but I hope you will check out, and participate in the new discussion!

Thanks

Righty
 

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