Condy Anenome
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Ive heard stories of people trying to kill condys, but to no avail; putting em' in crap-water, predators, smooshing them with rocks, and even leaving them out of the water for a couple of days! Of course, who knows how much of that was true...
Theyre good in THAT respect; hardier than youd probably want them!
The thing I always hear people complain about them is that theyre extremely active movers; they never really stay put!
The other thing Ive read is that there is almost NO clownfish that will host in such an anemone...
Just what Ive heard, and hope it helps some!
Theyre good in THAT respect; hardier than youd probably want them!
The thing I always hear people complain about them is that theyre extremely active movers; they never really stay put!
The other thing Ive read is that there is almost NO clownfish that will host in such an anemone...
Just what Ive heard, and hope it helps some!
I asked this same question to my trusty LFS (they know their stuff and I've seen them lose a sale rather than send an animal off to a likely demise..)
The condys you usually see really cheap are from the Atlantic. There are no clownfish there, so it's not a natural host for them.
Lots of condys live in areas where there's lots of run off, so they are used to less than pristing water quality. And yes, they can spread like the plague from what I've heard.
I saw a tank at a Petco here that had a school of clowns and a few condys in it..they were trying to sell them as pairs....didn't sell too many as one of the condys was eating the clowns....
The condys you usually see really cheap are from the Atlantic. There are no clownfish there, so it's not a natural host for them.
Lots of condys live in areas where there's lots of run off, so they are used to less than pristing water quality. And yes, they can spread like the plague from what I've heard.
I saw a tank at a Petco here that had a school of clowns and a few condys in it..they were trying to sell them as pairs....didn't sell too many as one of the condys was eating the clowns....
I thought I was gonna pass out from so much misinformation in a single thread. Please refrain from answering questions if you're unsure of the answers. You do a disservice to the person asking the question as well as the animals.
First, Condylactus anemones are relatively hardy compared to SOME of the clownfish host anemones, but you can't "put em' in crap-water, predators, smoosh them with rocks, and even leave them out of the water for a couple of days." If you do any of the above, they will die! They are comparable to bubble-tip anemones (Entacmaea quadricolor) in terms of hardiness; perhaps even less hardy. They require reef-quality water and BRIGHT light to survive.
They are NOT active movers when kept under proper conditions. This includes the right food, water conditions and light. Again, they are comparable in this regard to the bubble-tip anemones, and much less active than many other anemones, such as Heteractis magnifica.
Continuing... Most clownfish will not host in Condylactus anemones, but a few will, such as Clarki's and Maroon's. Other species sometimes adapt to them as well.
Condylactus anemones can certainly "sting" corals but are far less potent than many of the Pacific Ocean host-anemones in this regard, especially the carpet anemones, which are notorious fish-eaters.
Condylactus anemones do not occur in polluted waters. In fact, I used to dive a pristine site in the Cayman Islands that was carpeted with beautiful Condylactus anemones. When I returned to this site a few years later, it had been affected by local run-off and algae had overtaken much of the area. 90% of the Condylactus anemones had disappeared.
Finally, Condylactus anemones will NOT "spread like the plague." As far as I know, they do not reproduce by fission, as do the bubble-tip anemones, aiptasia anemones and majano anemones. And they don't get as large as most of the Pacific host anemones. I have a purple Condylactus anemone in a 58 gallon reef aquarium for the past year. While it has gotten larger, it has NEVER moved and NEVER "spread."
In conclusion, the purple and pink varieties of Condylactus anemones make spectacular additions to a reef aquarium, as long as you understand their needs. Most of the specimens seen for sale in local stores are near death and look horrible. Once they recover though, they look great in an aquarium. Although they normally don't host clownfish, there are a lot of inveterbrates that use this species as a host, including some shrimp and crabs. These are equally fascinating relationships to obeserve.
Greg
First, Condylactus anemones are relatively hardy compared to SOME of the clownfish host anemones, but you can't "put em' in crap-water, predators, smoosh them with rocks, and even leave them out of the water for a couple of days." If you do any of the above, they will die! They are comparable to bubble-tip anemones (Entacmaea quadricolor) in terms of hardiness; perhaps even less hardy. They require reef-quality water and BRIGHT light to survive.
They are NOT active movers when kept under proper conditions. This includes the right food, water conditions and light. Again, they are comparable in this regard to the bubble-tip anemones, and much less active than many other anemones, such as Heteractis magnifica.
Continuing... Most clownfish will not host in Condylactus anemones, but a few will, such as Clarki's and Maroon's. Other species sometimes adapt to them as well.
Condylactus anemones can certainly "sting" corals but are far less potent than many of the Pacific Ocean host-anemones in this regard, especially the carpet anemones, which are notorious fish-eaters.
Condylactus anemones do not occur in polluted waters. In fact, I used to dive a pristine site in the Cayman Islands that was carpeted with beautiful Condylactus anemones. When I returned to this site a few years later, it had been affected by local run-off and algae had overtaken much of the area. 90% of the Condylactus anemones had disappeared.
Finally, Condylactus anemones will NOT "spread like the plague." As far as I know, they do not reproduce by fission, as do the bubble-tip anemones, aiptasia anemones and majano anemones. And they don't get as large as most of the Pacific host anemones. I have a purple Condylactus anemone in a 58 gallon reef aquarium for the past year. While it has gotten larger, it has NEVER moved and NEVER "spread."
In conclusion, the purple and pink varieties of Condylactus anemones make spectacular additions to a reef aquarium, as long as you understand their needs. Most of the specimens seen for sale in local stores are near death and look horrible. Once they recover though, they look great in an aquarium. Although they normally don't host clownfish, there are a lot of inveterbrates that use this species as a host, including some shrimp and crabs. These are equally fascinating relationships to obeserve.
Greg
i dont mean to hijack the thread, but it seems an appropriate question.
i cant seem to get my condy to eat. he looks very happy, always open and has settled down. is it possible that my frozne clams are 'freezerburned'? they are a bit old. any info? TIA.
i cant seem to get my condy to eat. he looks very happy, always open and has settled down. is it possible that my frozne clams are 'freezerburned'? they are a bit old. any info? TIA.
fishfanatic2":3ioie92a said:
Haven't you heard? You can smash Condy anemones with a rock and keep them out of water. Why would you think you need to feed them? :lol:
It's not unusual for an anemone NOT to feed for a week or more after being moved between aquariums. It takes a while for them to settle in and they often have to repopulate their nematocysts. You didn't say how long you've had it or what lights are over the aquarium. These are important considerations. You can try different foods, such as frozen krill or silversides, but it won't feed unless it's basic needs are first met.
Greg
shalegac":tk6tywjx said:
Condy anemones occur on reef flats and have similar needs to most of the shallow water corals we keep in our reef aquariums. Most importantly, they require bright light in the form of metal halides. VHO fluorescents will work but aren't ideal. They require a rocky reef structure to attach their base. They need a moderate back and forth water movement. Water quality is important as well. Alkalinity should be 7-10 dKh, salinity should be at full strength (1.025) and temperature should be between 76-82 degrees F. Feeding should take place at least twice a week in the form of meaty seafood, such as krill or silversides.
Greg
Well great Greg! Good job! Pat yourself on the back there, buddy!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :?
Shut up. Put it in your magazine and sit on it.
Youve succeeded in demonizing every person on this forum who ever offered what theyve heard from other people. Congrats! Youve joined a growing percentage (according to my accounts) of blow-hard jerks that are sadly a large percentage of this whole industry.
I covered my own bases:
Not to mention:
Its disgusting to think that stating what we mean by what we present and the nature of our presenting it now must become a means of protecting ourselves from verbal whiplash from snobs, just because weve offered what weve picked up, perhaps in misinformation or assumption, but always informally so. By the way, in case you didnt pick it up after the first time, the fact that its informal is presented in "Just what Ive heard" or comparable indications.
So before you go and tell us how to offer our own experiences in a forum thats designed for the exchange of more than just text-book answers by losers with book-fetishes and a high-and-mighty attitude, or even answer questions as you put it, just take a couple hundred steps back and see the forest through the trees.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
WannaBeReefer":1rq597gd said:are they really that bad in a reef tank? I read they are not good to have. LFS said they would be fine, but I figured I would ask here before I get suckered.
I've kept the Condy that Greg described in my reef before. Pink column with purple tips. It also displayed bubble-tips which Condy's are sometimes known to do. My clarkii clown took to it rather quickly, and kept it well fed by storing large pieces of shrimp within the tentacles. This is probably why it never moved.
FYI, Dewr, you're actually calling a professional from whom a person couldn't be getting BETTER advice a "blow-hard". Not only is that insulting to anyone, it's insulting if you know anything about the hobby, even more so if you have a clue as to who Greg is.
If you take issue with someone's delivery, that's one thing, calling them names is another entirely. Unnecessary, rude, and uncalled for.
Hey, I have an idea! Try Googling Greg Scheimer. (You can even give my nick and real name - if you can sort it out - a try, it's kinda fun to find yourself on Google.)
WannaBe, the advice you've gotten from Greg couldn't come from a better, more knowledgeable source. My advice is take it as gospel.
If you take issue with someone's delivery, that's one thing, calling them names is another entirely. Unnecessary, rude, and uncalled for.
Hey, I have an idea! Try Googling Greg Scheimer.
(You can even give my nick and real name - if you can sort it out - a try, it's kinda fun to find yourself on Google.)WannaBe, the advice you've gotten from Greg couldn't come from a better, more knowledgeable source. My advice is take it as gospel.
The advice was great. Text book great. I agree; couldnt have been more informative! I have no idea who Greg is, and I really cant stand reading long articles I cant hold in my hands (my eyes get way tired reading online). I didnt dispute that or his reputation at all seamaiden.
But can you really tell me that is a remark an enlightened or professional person makes after hes just finished royally beating anyone who doesnt speak with perfect informational accuracy? C'mon! Thats rediculous.
Jerk, loser, snob, and whatever else in that same category are not names; theyre appellations given to/as titles in an offensive way.
Please dont post about people calling others names if you get your facts straight.
See? Same principle applied there. Why is it Im always the one seems to take notice of elitist arrogance amongst the learned peoples? And why is Im always the one that has to lock horns with them and their faithfuls?
Mark these words; this is by far way too telling of the society that weve become. Weve up and pasted a predatory group of hypocrits and snaked our way into a more grotesque way of living with our fellow man (& woman [not sexist!]); apathy.
How many times do I have to write these things, never to be taken for what theyre worth, to finally lay down my convictions and will to die like the rest of you?! I cant keep living like this!
Thats it; as soon as I get a degree, Im moving to Tibet to bear the austerities of enlightenment and shed the dukkha (to quote the Buddha)!
But can you really tell me that is a remark an enlightened or professional person makes after hes just finished royally beating anyone who doesnt speak with perfect informational accuracy? C'mon! Thats rediculous.
Jerk, loser, snob, and whatever else in that same category are not names; theyre appellations given to/as titles in an offensive way.
Please dont post about people calling others names if you get your facts straight.
See? Same principle applied there. Why is it Im always the one seems to take notice of elitist arrogance amongst the learned peoples? And why is Im always the one that has to lock horns with them and their faithfuls?
Mark these words; this is by far way too telling of the society that weve become. Weve up and pasted a predatory group of hypocrits and snaked our way into a more grotesque way of living with our fellow man (& woman [not sexist!]); apathy.
How many times do I have to write these things, never to be taken for what theyre worth, to finally lay down my convictions and will to die like the rest of you?! I cant keep living like this!
Thats it; as soon as I get a degree, Im moving to Tibet to bear the austerities of enlightenment and shed the dukkha (to quote the Buddha)!
Well, at first I thought of becoming a Bard or Druid or something nordic, but after a few thousand years, the only paths that have truly survived and are still here are in the East! Thats all, besides it being easier!
And I mean it; Im mentally, physically, and spiritually sick of all that is the West... The "Far West", that is (USA); I still love everything Celtic and Nordic...
And I mean it; Im mentally, physically, and spiritually sick of all that is the West... The "Far West", that is (USA); I still love everything Celtic and Nordic...
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