Condy Anenome

[GSchiemer]

"The advice was great. Text book great. I agree; couldnt have been more informative! I have no idea who Greg is, and I really cant stand reading long articles I cant hold in my hands (my eyes get way tired reading online). I didnt dispute that or his reputation at all seamaiden."

I have to chime-in here as a newbie and someone who is concerned for the health and well-being of the creatures I've chosen to take under my care.

This is a frightening conversation, and specifically the above is a frightening sentiment. This "hobby" is a scientific pursuit with very little margin for error that doesn't come with life-and-death consequences for the life forms in our charge. It is absolutely, 100% vital that people new to the hobby learn from the experts and read everything available. Dewr, your opening comments, while prefaced with "this is what i've heard" disclaimer, were simply incorrect -- and because they were incorrect, they potentially gave new aquarists a false sense of security with this animal that is inappropriate. It's Greg's responsibility to correct this misinformation *in order to save the lives of the creatures that you perhaps put in jeopardy*, and to send a clear message that by passing along rumor and heresay you are displaying disregard for the creatures we're all trying to care for.

I've been reading and posting on this forum for a couple of weeks now, and I've already been able to identify people who tend to give solid, balanced information vs. people who 1) just want to get their post numbers up and 2) tend to spout without a sufficient base of knowledge. Myself and the vast majority of new aquarists want to do the right thing, which means having access to the best quality information we can find. If you genuinely care about the animals we're providing for, you'll only post information that you know to be true based on either extensive research and/or personal hands-on experience, and you'll accept the drubbing that Greg gave you gracefully and admit that you made an error in judgment. We all make them and it's fine.

Don't be a willing contributor to the sea of misinformation out there -- lots and lots of tiny lives are depending on you to do the right thing.

Wow, very well said, and my sentiments exactly. Thanks.

 

[Anonymous]

"The advice was great. Text book great. I agree; couldnt have been more informative! I have no idea who Greg is, and I really cant stand reading long articles I cant hold in my hands (my eyes get way tired reading online). I didnt dispute that or his reputation at all seamaiden."

I have to chime-in here as a newbie and someone who is concerned for the health and well-being of the creatures I've chosen to take under my care.

This is a frightening conversation, and specifically the above is a frightening sentiment. This "hobby" is a scientific pursuit with very little margin for error that doesn't come with life-and-death consequences for the life forms in our charge. It is absolutely, 100% vital that people new to the hobby learn from the experts and read everything available. Dewr, your opening comments, while prefaced with "this is what i've heard" disclaimer, were simply incorrect -- and because they were incorrect, they potentially gave new aquarists a false sense of security with this animal that is inappropriate. It's Greg's responsibility to correct this misinformation *in order to save the lives of the creatures that you perhaps put in jeopardy*, and to send a clear message that by passing along rumor and heresay you are displaying disregard for the creatures we're all trying to care for.

I've been reading and posting on this forum for a couple of weeks now, and I've already been able to identify people who tend to give solid, balanced information vs. people who 1) just want to get their post numbers up and 2) tend to spout without a sufficient base of knowledge. Myself and the vast majority of new aquarists want to do the right thing, which means having access to the best quality information we can find. If you genuinely care about the animals we're providing for, you'll only post information that you know to be true based on either extensive research and/or personal hands-on experience, and you'll accept the drubbing that Greg gave you gracefully and admit that you made an error in judgment. We all make them and it's fine.

Don't be a willing contributor to the sea of misinformation out there -- lots and lots of tiny lives are depending on you to do the right thing.

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Ill get back to you on this one; gotta do the graduation-limbo right now.
This raises both an interesting and laughable anomaly--rather, multiple instances! There are some glaring misconcenptions, presumptions, assumptions, and misunderstandings that make this a side-acher, considering this is addressed to me! :lol: :lol: :lol:
Of course, nobody really laughs that hard when considering the fact that youre 1) serious, and 2) a cunning paraphraser! Really, where did you copy that speach from? I almost started wheezing from laughter when the thought arose that maybe Greg liked it so much because he's probably already given that address before! :lol:
Dont worry, theres room for intellectual growth in this!

And Greg, A) stop being such a ninny, and B) since you said that condys wouldnt move that much, and that theyde be marginally satisfied with PCs (130-Watts over 29 gallons = sufficient?), wheres the best place online that youd recommend purchasing one from? Also, do you think, with the animals I keep currently (LPSs, shrooms, and a few zoos), that a condy would present a much greater difficulty to care for? I know that the only LFS around my town has trouble getting silversides and other "orthodox" anemone foods in stock, but Ive read they do fine with some large table shrimp thats been dethawed and enriched (or room temperature if not previously frozen). Personally, I find it hard to see eye to eye with that; I just cant imagine your average table shrimp--unless completely injectedwith enrichment formula(s)--coming close to the nutritional value of a small fish; am I right, or just crazy? Or as some would put it, completely incorrect? :lol:
Would even approve of my taking such a creature "in my charge"?
Im gonna have fun with that krullulon guy!

 

[GSchiemer]

You can get Condy anemones from numerous online vendors. Here's one:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/scateg.cfm?siteid=23&pCatId=499

Also, a Condy anemone would fit in well with LPS corals, zoanthids, and mushroom corals. Any meaty seafood will suffice. PIECES of raw table shrimp are fine, but it's best to feed a mixed diet that includes silversides and krill.

BTW, I'm happy to help you but I don't appreciate the name-calling. If you're going to continue on that path, then please don't address any questions my way.

Greg

 

[Anonymous]

Sorry; I forgot to attach the smiley for a more "lighthearted" undertone! Seriously though, how can anyone be offended by such a rediculous "apellation" as "ninny"?! Its just too hard to take seriously! Thats why I use it...

Man, Im terrible; Ive gotten to where even I cant tell if Im being hostile or aggressive--passive or otherwise! Im now officially of a Lawful Evil alignment!...
*sigh*

 

[krullulon]

Would even approve of my taking such a creature "in my charge"?
Im gonna have fun with that krullulon guy!

go for it -- but guaranteed this is the last response you'll ever see from me. it's obvious that you're not interested in aquaculture for the same reasons i am, so we'll go our separate ways.

i'm here for information, and to share experiences. i appreciate facts -- something you've stated repeatedly in your post history that you don't have an affinity for -- and i think you enjoy baiting people and causing trouble more than you enjoy learning about marine biology.

... to which i wish you good luck and godspeed, young skywalker.

the end.

 

[GSchiemer]

Sorry; I forgot to attach the smiley for a more "lighthearted" undertone! Seriously though, how can anyone be offended by such a rediculous "apellation" as "ninny"?! Its just too hard to take seriously! Thats why I use it...

Man, Im terrible; Ive gotten to where even I cant tell if Im being hostile or aggressive--passive or otherwise! Im now officially of a Lawful Evil alignment!...
*sigh*

Perhaps "ninny" is a term of endearment in Napa, but it isn't one in New York. I'm beginning to think I've been suckered by a troll.

 

[Anonymous]

Here in the "other" California it's not a term of endearment, either (unless I've got your face in my hands and it's followed up by a big kiss on the lips). I'll have to check my map and sort just how many bridges there are in Napa... Might snag one of the neighbor's billy goats if need be (though it'll stink up my van).

Frankly, Dewr, you're coming off as rather psychotic, and are making little sense. :|

Would even approve of my taking such a creature "in my charge"?
Im gonna have fun with that krullulon guy!

go for it -- but guaranteed this is the last response you'll ever see from me. it's obvious that you're not interested in aquaculture for the same reasons i am, so we'll go our separate ways.

i'm here for information, and to share experiences. i appreciate facts -- something you've stated repeatedly in your post history that you don't have an affinity for -- and i think you enjoy baiting people and causing trouble more than you enjoy learning about marine biology.

... to which i wish you good luck and godspeed, young skywalker.

the end.

I've been reading your posts, and I sincerely hope this is NOT the last we'll see from you. Please reconsider (unless you're talking specifically about within this thread).

Live long and prosper!

 

[Anonymous]

Well I'm just a short drive from Napa, and round these parts ninny doesn't fit in too well with a mature, non inflammatory conversation either.

Jim

 

[Anonymous]

For some reason I thought you were practically FRESNO.

 

[Anonymous]

For some reason I thought you were practically FRESNO.

Nahhh, fresno's out in the central valley.

 

[krullulon]

I've been reading your posts, and I sincerely hope this is NOT the last we'll see from you. Please reconsider (unless you're talking specifically about within this thread).

I'm not leaving, Seamaiden! This forum is a great source of information and inspiration and I wouldn't let one bad apple chase me away.

I wouldn't have normally responded to this thread, but as a newbie this particular issue is really key to my success, especially in the first months. There are more than enough conflicting *legitimate* opinions out there that I need to make sense of, and so someone who willingly passes-on bad information or who doesn't care if the information is based on fact really gets me steamed. :evil:

I jumped-into this pursuit because I love marine life, want to learn everything I can about reef ecosystems and I love to measure and tweak and tinker... which seems to map well to reef keeping. I've found a ton of great information here and lots of great folks who have the same goals, so life is good!

Bottom line is that I want to be able to say after a year that I have a happy, healthy reef and that the critters who live there are well cared for.

And if all goes well, 5 years from now I'll have a 500 gallon megatank!

 

[Anonymous]

Fantastic, Krull, let the coolness ensue.

 

[Anonymous]

Hey Greg, thanks for the excellent info on condys. Much I didn't know! Its interesting how often they are ignored in the literature due to not being a clownfish species.

Thanks for the amazingly even keel also. :wink:

 

[Anonymous]

Wow...


What an amazing thread, I found this one using the ever beloved and much touted search function, and out of all the threads about condy's that I have looked at in the last couple of hours, this one has to have the most useful information in it.

Greg, have you written any kind of article about your experiences with Condy's? I think I would like to read it.

Here is my latest addition, not definitely sure if its a condy or not, but to me it looks like it. You can see its bleached, We will see how it makes out. Its under 130 watts of PC's and while this amount of light made my Rock anenome just beautiful, I am not positive it will be enough in the long run....

I am going to try feeding it some flounder tonight, its all I have laying around in the freezer at the moment, I will get some krill or silversides later on.

Even with Dewr's involvement this ended up being a dang informative thread

 

[Anonymous]

Cute blenny.

Good luck with it Bryan. I got an all purple one a while back that I could tell was bleached. Thought I would give it a go and try to save it anyway, but no luck. It lasted about 6 months.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, apparently it likes flounder.

It sort of grabbed the piece I had in my new pinchers and dragged it down into itself and wrapped it up in tentacles.

Very cool looking I tell you....

I need to get my wave timer set up on a powerhead so I can give it some alternating current where its sitting....

 

[Anonymous]

Blast from the past. I have seen some mega bumps lately, search must be getting some overtime pay. I picked up a condy sold as a hawaiian anemone lol, but had to return it to the LFS. It apparently would only settle for the place in the tank where my SPS were. So... it really came down to A)one is superglued to the rock 2) the other was loosely attached. So the condy went back to the store after consuming 10 of my silversides at the ranger all you can eat and run buffett.

 

[Anonymous]

4 yr old Ocellaris & Condy. This condy has always stayed on the same rock. When we first got it, he decides to take a walkabout ang got hung up in a powerhead. Half of it's tentacles got ripped off, after getting it out that mess. It seems content to stay put and get feed everyweek.

 

[Anonymous]

Well, mine has the purple tips, but the surface of the tentacles does not look like that.

I keep telling my wife that a clown will not host in it... I am not showing her this pic....

 

[Anonymous]

One question I have about these...

Its really large during the day, and I am feeding it 2 times a week with shrimp or fish.

Should I be supplementing its diet with something by soaking its food in it?

Also, it closes up a bit during the night, this morning I came down and it was closed into a ball with the tentacles inside except for 2-3 tips sticking out and there was some stringy substance waving about maybe 4 inches from it, sort of wafting in the current.

Probably normal I know, but what is it doing?

Thanks for any help...