Refuge with BITE!!

[Rob Top]

My 125 is planned to be the refuge in my central system. Rock, sand, algea, pods and the like where all that was going to be in there. Rock work was going to be rubble or pcs I nolonger wanted in dispaly seeded with some new sand and rock. I really wasn't planning it to be much too look at. Then I started thinking, Well lets do something.
Rockwork suports

And since a refuge doesn't have fish that will eat the pods or algae and such why not a

Completed

And looking for food

 

[FragMaster]

I can see you have put alot of work in to it and I dont mean to offend you.........BUT........
You have just doomed your refugium to become a waste factory, instead of a recycle factory.
I love the look, and the green moray ( which is already to way to big for that tank).
But it will offer you very little as a refugium now.

 

[Anonymous]

The whole idea of a refugium is a place "free from predators"

That is a rather large one there...

 

[Anonymous]

It's cool though.

Louey

 

[GSchiemer]

This was a VERY bad idea. The green moray grows to 6 to 8 feet in length and is a dangerous predator (I hope the top is covered TIGHTLY). Assuming you feed it adequately, it will overwhelm you're reef system even now. Don't think that you'll keep it a while and then sell it or give it away. Public aquariums usually won't accept them and most hobbyists can't house them. Similar to sharks, this animal should not be sold in the hobby trade.

Greg

 

[Anonymous]

I think using a sump as another tank is a good idea, albeit you must pick non-predator fish if you want to keep it as a refugium. If your sump allows easy access, why not use it to it's full capabililty?

You could make a gorgeous planted display, using macros and vascular plants in their filtering capacity AND as art. You can place a few culturing vessels with their bubblers and grow phyto and zooplankton. You can add some kreisal nurseries for delicate breeder tanks. There are many possibilties for a space that size.

Using a large sump as just added volume and a space to hide equipment is not using it to it's full potential. IMO.

But, I myself wouldn't put an aquatic snake in it! I would not be able to sleep at night! Yuck! If that pic shows your eel in a 125, it must be huge!

Now, a sexy antenata lionfish, that would be hot!

 

[Anonymous]

I once considered adding seahorses to my fuge because it seemed like a good environment for them. And it is. But it would deplete your fuge of the bugs that you are trying to grow for your main tank, so it is counterproductive. So I decided against it.

Now I grow frags in the top of my fuge so that it has a purpose beyond just being a fuge.

Louey

 

[Anonymous]

looks like your display is now a refugium from the morey.

 

[Omni2226]

Umm maybe its just me but I dont think he plans to actually keep the Eel in this refuge...I thought it was a joke and its just there for the pictures and laughs....

 

[GSchiemer]

Umm maybe its just me but I dont think he plans to actually keep the Eel in this refuge...I thought it was a joke and its just there for the pictures and laughs....

Boy, I don't know how you interpreted that, and I don't get the "joke."

 

[Omni2226]

Well it says he has been a member since 2000 so I assume he is not new to keeping water.

This leads me to think he knows what a refugium is for, and that Eels being predators are very messy eaters, and that Morays get huge.

The title "with a Bite" followed by a picture of an animal that needs to be in a 100 gallon aquarium stuffed into a 30.

Then again maybe Im missing something....

 

[Omni2226]

Sorry double post..><

 

[Anonymous]

I'm afraid of Moray eels 8O

 

[FragMaster]

Omni2226: What you are looking at IS the 125g refugium. Its a 125g tall.
thats why the first sentence of the thread says "my 125g fuge" :wink:
I dont think its a joke. Maybe missinformation, or a bad idea that seemed good at the time?
One thing is certain though, that eel is to big for a 125g tank at is present size. Wait a year or two and see how big ity is then! They do not grow to thier enviorment. They just keep growing. I have seen them at lengths of 11 feet ( The Ripleys Aquarium Of The Smokey's has one that size in the same tank with some HUGE groupers, I mean like the size of pick-nick tables!)

 

[Omni2226]

Ooopsss..so it is I see that now..the 125 is the central refuge for the entire system..my bad.

Those things do get big dont they?

Anyway Ill hush now

 

[Rob Top]

Wow, talk about some "interesting" replys. Some of you need a lession in tack, but you already know that. Just a couple things to say. First I would like to think I know a thing or two about water quality, a reef set up and such. Otherwise I have been wasting my time for over 10 years and thousands of dollars. Currently I have over 400 gallons going and once the fishroom is completed it will be well over 1000 gallons, just with the tanks and equipment I currently have.

How messy of an eater an eel is depends very much on the size of food offered. If you give it a 4" pc of meat or 4-1" pcs.

I really wasn't planning it to be much too look at. Then I started thinking, Well lets do something.

Guess I should have continued the thought, it was late, I was sleepy.

Umm maybe its just me but I dont think he plans to actually keep the Eel in this refuge

Someone thinks along the same lines as I do when I am tierd 8O , it WAS going to be my fuge then... I started thinking lets do something.

Yes this eel should stay in the ocean, but someone was moving and needed to get rid of it, and I have the abilities to house it, and even at full grown size, I can make room.


Thanks for looking though

 

[Omni2226]

Heh ya I didnt see the tag stating the size of the tank it is in, my bad.

And as I said you have been around a while so I assumed you know about keeping large predators. I really thought you were just doing it as a temporary thing till you could get it moved to a larger tank, and posted some pics to get a laugh...

Just be careful and dont lose a finger or five while feeding it heh!

 

[FragMaster]

"How messy of an eater an eel is depends very much on the size of food offered. If you give it a 4" pc of meat or 4-1" pcs."

No matter how you "slice" it 4" is 4" = same waste amount. You can eat 5lbs of hamburger over an 8 hour period at only .625 lbs perserving, but at the end of the day you still ate 5lbs of hamburger.


"My 125 is planned to be the refuge in my central system"

Then ya went on to say you put the moray in there,and nothing of it being disconected from the system. Hence the replies (Not to mention the title says "refuge with-Bite")


"it WAS going to be my fuge then... I started thinking lets do something. "

So is it a fuge or isnt it?

I never ment to slam you,or to start a head hunt. I didnt think I was
being hostile at all towards you?

 

[Rob Top]

To me messy means leaving bits and pcs uneaten and floating around. Waste is waste, 5lbs is 5lbs your right. Guess we are splitting hairs there. No it isn't the fuge andy longer. I was tiered and quick to post.

 

[FragMaster]

Oh.... ok then that sheds an entirely new lighting on it all.

Good luck with it then, I still think it looks good.