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JKDMan

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i use durso style standpipes one side is whisper quiet the other sounds kinda gurgly any tips on quieting it up
 

Len

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Balancing two Dursos is a major PITA. I would personally get rid of both dursos and control the flow with a good gate valve below the tank :P It's quieter and produces very little bubbles unlike Dursos (bubble machines).
 
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I have no problems with my dual dursos. The valve thing works also, but it scares me. Get some trash in there and things will flood.
 

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Actually, the two dursos I was using was in the same overflow box, and that was impossible to dial in so that one didn't outpace the other. But if it's separate boxes, it should be much easier. You should be able to tune each independently in the same manner.

As for the valve method, it is a scary idea but never once have any valve clogged in the (nearly) decade I've been using this method. But if I were to design a tank from scratch and had the room in the overflow box, I'd install a second backup drain in case the water level rises too much from blockage.
 

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any tips on quieting it up

John henry has the right Idea. If you dont already have a hole in the end, cap drill one at about 1/8" and start from there. You may need it to be a little larger to prevent the siphon effect. If you already have a big hole in the cap go buy a new one and start over. It sounds like one of your overflows works a little harder than the other and you will need two different sized cap holes to accomodate this. My dual dursos run evenly and dont need different sized holes but I guess it could happen.
 
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Mine are in the same box, but huge for my flow. I got two 1.5" pipes and less than 1000 gph. When I was getting the tank built I was not sure what I was going to do so I over sized the drains.

Didn't you just design a tank from scratch?
 

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I did, but I didn't want a big overflow box so there's only one drain. However, I have enough room above the water line to absorb all the sump volume in case the overflow completely clogs.
 

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Len":39nmrm92 said:
However, I have enough room above the water line to absorb all the sump volume in case the overflow completely clogs.

By some, that would be considered a huge waste of valuable coral growing tank space. :P
 
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Len":5u7up8f7 said:
Actually, the two dursos I was using was in the same overflow box, and that was impossible to dial in so that one didn't outpace the other. But if it's separate boxes, it should be much easier. You should be able to tune each independently in the same manner.

As for the valve method, it is a scary idea but never once have any valve clogged in the (nearly) decade I've been using this method. But if I were to design a tank from scratch and had the room in the overflow box, I'd install a second backup drain in case the water level rises too much from blockage.

If you have a more or less vertical drop in your drain, you can just put a tee below the tank but above the gate valve. The water will still flow straight down. If something gets clogged in the gate valve, it will come out the tee (which you've also plumbed down to the sump, obviously).

The higher gate valve is unnecessary.
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I'm definitely with Len & Matt on this - the valve method has been the easiest and quietest (basically silent) for me. With a few provisions incoporated into the setup to prevent flooding (which I have always done anyway, regardless of the overflow/standpipe method being used) IMO it's completely reliable.

On any of my setups, I put a tight fitting lid on my overflow boxes so nothing big enough to clog the drain can get through. This also blocks light and therefore growth of coralline, etc. inside the box. Also, (as Len already mentioned) I run the water level in the sump and the tank so that a full drain clog can be accomodated without anything overflowing.

Len":jflh6hjp said:
As for the valve method, it is a scary idea but never once have any valve clogged in the (nearly) decade I've been using this method. But if I were to design a tank from scratch and had the room in the overflow box, I'd install a second backup drain in case the water level rises too much from blockage.
This is exactly what I did on the 180 I'm setting up. In addition to providing another form of overflow protection it also makes dialing-in the valve on the main drain line easier as any slight variations in flow can be taken up by the secondary drain. This slight trickle of flow doesn't add any significant noise.
 

JKDMan

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ya but how does the setup of the valve and the T help to quiet anyting down
i have a setup like this on one side of my tank to restrict flow into my fuge but im not seeing how it quiets down the overflow
 

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You use the valve to restrict the standpipe until the intake runs submerged. No gurgling noise and no air entrainment (like a Durso).

With some tweaking you can get the Dursos pretty quiet, but with the valve thing you can get them totally silent and eliminate the noises/bubbles in the sump normally associated with Dursos, Stockmans, etc. which all entrain air into the line.
 

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