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Tom, I'm in the process of removing my DSB. After 7 years, I'm wondering if it is a source of nutrients for algae growth in my tank. I was advised to remove some of the sand each time I do a water change (weekly). This advise came from my trusted LFS (who is excellent). I should have most of the sand out in a total of 10 weeks. I don't like a totally BB look, so I will leave a fine layer on the bottom of the tank.
 
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cjdevito":mcrvi21z said:
AZDesertRat":mcrvi21z said:
A DSB should not restrict flow, the tank in the pics has 40x-45x turnover.

"Mad flow" = twice that, at least. In the world of propeller pumps, turnover of 90x-100x is not uncommon.

Tthe tank in the pic's sand bed is sculpted by the flow- the dip in the middle front. Change the flow and you'll change the sand scape.

Oh - turnover is really the wrong word, we need a new one. Something like ITF, or in tank flow, to differentiate flow through sumps and flow in the tank itself.
 
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Thales":f0u7zhxo said:
Oh - turnover is really the wrong word, we need a new one.

Hmm, yeah. Maybe ((10*tank volume) gph) = 1 Rosspower.
 
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I dunno. "She might not look like much but she's the ship that made the Kessel run in 12 Sanjays" just doesn't have the right ring to it.
 

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Read the DSB articles by Dr. Ron Shimek, he is a recognized expert on DSB's and his methods are proven. I was lucky enough to have one of his graduate students in the reef club I was President of for several years. His methods are sound and work if his advice is followed.
 
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Yeah, I know. I wrote a synopsis of his early DSB articles back in '97 or '98, and ran a DSB on several tanks over an 8 year span. Actually, if memory serves, I think everyone in this thread has at one time or another run a Shimek-style DSB.

Don't get the idea that we're saying it doesn't work. Just that it's one approach amongst many that do work, and in many applications it's not neccessarily the best choice.
 

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Having kept reefs for more years than I can remember, I have tried most ways. Never was a fan of sand, and by that I mean the finer type shallow or deep ones we see. My bare bottomed tanks have never had nuisance algae growth besides some problems with that red turf on some rocks. Which I picked up from another aquarist I may add.

Fine sand beds for my have always ended up with some cyno on them. Yes, had the correct critters etc.

All that being said, I have several friends with well established tanks and shallow sand beds, lots of critters in them and no problems what so ever. Plus one thing I really miss is the life and diversity of the sand, esp. some of the wrasse family that requires sand.

Tom, most seem to kind of stabilize {sand spreading} after awhile to suit the flow of the pumps and kind of stay that way. I always though it looked kind of neat with the dunes,etc. And there is spots where barely any covers the bottom but thats kind of natural to. At least, IMO.

I,m currently setting up a standard 50g long, with a plenum. It will use regular crushed coral in the first couple inches and 2mm aragonite for the rest. Now talk about old school. :lol:

It was successful for me about 15 yrs. ago, so wanting to give it another go just to see.
 
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Thanks for the input Doug. I'm going to stick with the sand bed as it is for now and hope the sand stops blowing around at some point. I don't remember what happened with my last tank (also had a DSB), but I don't remember it taking this long for things to settle down.

Even if I stick with this DSB, I'm certainly more open to the idea of BB/SSB in my next tank than I ever was.
 

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