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latino277

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My wife went out to get our news paper and got this scary surprise. The building will be cutting the power on 2 day for 8 hours each day on Wed. and Thurs. of this week. The thing that suck the most is that I HAVE to leave on a business trip on Thurs. night.

With this said, The only thing I can think of is trying to get some of those battery operated air pump. How many will I need for a 125g 6? tank? Also, in the event that I can not get my hands on these pumps, Is there anyone that I can borrow them from?

Thx for any help/advise in advance!!!!
:grouphug:
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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You could put a ups on your return pump. Provided your pump doesn't draw alot of electricity it could run for a while. Buy the biggest one possible and leave it in place in case you ever lose power in the future.
 

masterswimmer

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The only thing you'll need to run is a heater and your return pump. That should sustain your system.

I figure you probably have a 500w heater and your return pump I don't imagine is more than 150w.

In an emergency situation, you can buy a marine battery (deep cycle) and a 750w power inverter. This will run those two appliances without any problem. You will need to recharge the marine battery after the first 8 hr day though.

This is a very inexpensive way to run the system during power outages without worrying about carbon monoxide (generator) if you live in an apartment.

Russ
 

Bori

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I run a ups (Backup-pro 1400)on my setup, just for the pump (Iwaki 70) and that only gives me about 2 hrs of power. A large one will run you $$$ but no guarantee it'll last you 8 hrs or more. If feasible a generator is the way to go. If you're only gone for a day or so, everything should be ok I would think, depending on the size of the setup and with some battery powered airstones. That saved my setup during the blackout a couple of years ago. Good luck.
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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Not for more than 8 hrs but if you get a big ups and hook it to the mag 9.5 which is 93w it should run for a while. You would need to go to the store and look at the upc's and find out which will run the pump the longest.
 

latino277

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I just checked with the building and a generator is out of the question. How much would a marine batt run me. My apt is pretty worm (at this time of year I can hold a 79.6 with no lights and not heater and all the windows open), so I think I can do with out the heaters
 

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Just one more thought - if the power isn't back on before you leave on your business trip, will your system come back on itself? Does your wife know what to do if it doesn't? Have a reefing buddy nearby that she can call?
 

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John, a marine battery will run you in the $50-$75 range. The 750w inverter will run about the same. These are both reusable and will give you some peace of mind during other unexpected power outages. Not a bad way to go.

Russ
 

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Or you could spend $100 to $200 on a UPS and plug your tunze 6100 into it. The UPS only really work on DC pumps since the voltage coming out of them is very choppy. A PC doesn't notice this fluctuation but an AC pump will vibrate and knock like crazy. Your 6100 will do fine on one however, FWIW Tunze is working on a battery backup for the DC stream line.

IMO, powering your largest pump (your return pump) while your gone is not the way to go, your stream is your most powerful pump and has the lowest wattage draw. It's a no brainer that the stream is your go to emergency "keep everything alive" pump. A good UPS will keep it running no problem and the lower you have it set the longer it will run.
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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Here's How:
Locate an old or used UPS that is functioning properly. These are commonly used by people with computers to protect their systems in case of power interruptions, and to filter power dips and spikes. When the battery wears out, most people throw their UPS away because it is obsolete and they cannot obtain a replacement battery, or they may just want to get a more powerful unit.
Check the voltage of the UPS battery to make sure that it is a 12 volt battery.
Check the wattage of the equipment that you want to keep running in the case of a power outage. Check the maximum wattage output rating of the UPS. This is the the most wattage that the UPS will handle in the case of a power outage. The UPS will not handle any more wattage than it is rated for.
Purchase a 12 volt battery. You can usually find a fairly good quality battery on sale for under $50 which will serve your purposes. Generally speaking, the higher the "Cold Cranking Amps" an automotive battery is rated at, the better the battery will serve you. Automotive batteries will work well for fairly low wattage demands and short periods of usage, however a marine quality deep cycle battery will work best for higher wattages and longer periods of time.

Check the connector type on the UPS battery. Most of these connectors are the spade (flat) female type connectors. Purchase 2 connectors which will fit in the connectors from the UPS. If possible, take the old UPS battery with you when you purchase the connectors. This way, you can make sure that you are buying the right connectors.
Purchase 2 metal hose clamps. These will be used to clamp the wires from the UPS to the battery terminals. If the battery you bought has the screw type terminals, you won't need these clamps.
Cut 2 pieces of 12 gauge wire of sufficient length to go from the battery to the UPS.
Measure how much bare wire will be needed for the UPS connector and battery terminals and strip the insulation from the ends of the 2 wires to fit.
Attach the ends of each wire to each of the wire connectors.
Clamp the other ends of the wires to each of the battery terminals. If your 12 volt battery has the screw type terminals, wrap the stripped wire ends around the screws and tighten the screws.
Attach the battery terminal wires to the UPS battery wires. Black is negative, red is positive.
Plug the UPS cord into your 110 volt house outlet.
Turn the UPS on. The UPS should indicate that it is running normally.
Plug a lamp into the UPS "Power Protected" outlet. The light should come on.
Unplug the UPS from the wall outlet. The lamp should stay on. Most UPS units will emit a beep or give some other indication that it is running on the battery and not the house current.
Tips:
Check the UPS wiring diagram to make sure that you are connecting the UPS battery wires to the battery correctly.
A wire stripping tool, such as can be purchased at an auto parts store, works very well for stripping the wire ends and clinching the connectors.
If you have multiple lights on your tank, you can stretch the battery life by plugging only one light and other essential equipment into the "Power Protected" outlet of the UPS. Plug the other light and all other nonessential equipment into the unprotected outlet.
If you have only one protected outlet in your UPS, use a power strip to attach more equipment.
Once your UPS is set up with all of the equipment on and running through it, unplug the UPS from the wall outlet to make sure that everything keeps running as you planned.
What You Need:
UPS
12 volt battery (Marine Deep Cycle battery is preferred)
2 wire connectors
12 gauge wire
Wire stripping and connector clinching tool. (Optional)

This is a quote from this thread: http://www.manhattaneefs.com/forum/general-discussion/13562-last-nights-blackout.html
 

latino277

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I'm running an aqua controler so, I want to say that the system will come back up one that turns on. Phil and Johnny live close so (they don't know it yet) but I may try tap into one of them.
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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Russ the only concern I have with just the inverter is that it doesn't sense a loss of power and it has to be manually switched over if I am correct. With fry's explanation and the ups it's automatic. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 

masterswimmer

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Russ the only concern I have with just the inverter is that it doesn't sense a loss of power and it has to be manually switched over if I am correct. With fry's explanation and the ups it's automatic. Please correct me if I am wrong.


Absolutely correct. But his situation is a planned outage. This will work for that. If he wasn't home during the outage, that's another story.

R
 

masterswimmer

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But he's going to be away on a business trip.


Not sure about the details of the scheduled outage, but he mentioned it's planned for Wednesday and Thursday. I'd guess it's during the daytime hours for maintenance or some service work. He's leaving Thursday night for business. AND, his wife can unplug the inverter. It really is a snap.

Besides, this is just another option.....not the only solution.

R
 
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Chiefmcfuz

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LOL You said the magic word.............WIFE :lol2: If my wife had to do something to save the tank she wouldn't!
 

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