S%&# Like This Is Not Cool

[Aqua Pro Builder]

This kind of argument will keep on coming up unless we had clear definition of what are OFFERING or SELLING....
The offerer may be thinking this as a helping-out-fellow-hobbyist deal but the receiver may be thinking offering a cleanup service or a make money fast deal. So, it is best that we do it like we do business and save ourself some drama. The offerer offers an item at a price(could be zero in dollar) and stated the terms then expect no further. The receiver agreed to the terms and accepts the offers and expect no further such as warranty. If the terms are not proper then don't even try to bargain the offerer. In fact, I have taken care of an animal with explicit agreement that I will send the original owner) the pic of it once a while.

e.g.
I am offering my ~270G(some scratches) Tank FREE for whoever ready to pick up in FLUSHING and WILL NEVER SELL it in the receivers' life term and must keep it running for me to inspect once a month. Tank is to be taken as is and no warranty of any sort is expressed including possibility causing your floor to collapse or wetting your floor.

The receiver should look at all the terms and decide, can he maintain this supposingly help-the-fellow-hobbyist free large tank.

I always think when one put a price on an item, one valued the item to be that price unless explicitly specified otherwise. When I decided to give an item for free. I valued the item to be zero in value to me. I would not care if it goes to the dumpster or to a beautiful home especially, we are talking about hardware. When I left my old Brooklyn address, I had about 10 15 tanks left and the landlord made sure I hired a dumpster to dump them(i.e. I have to offer money to have someone remove my tanks.)

 

[ssmtcarlo]

Im just saying that i was hoping that the tank would go to someone who would appreciate it not try to profit from it. I will not give out the guilty parties name. if you want to find out, there is a location on the craigs list posting.

rookie07 its powdered sugar sir its delicious

 

[ireefny]

Im so happy with everyones candidness.

I purchased Matts tank (for the asking price) after someone had not responded to him for the sale. I said the price seems low & tried to up it a bit but he refused. I showed up in his home with a Tyree Green toadstool & his money. I was not expecting to wind up with this tank & was really shooting for a shorter tank. the set up was tall that I had to take two trips. I called Matt & discussed possibility to sell the tank since I can still use the stand & canopy. he said he would rather just deal with one person. so at this point I had to make the second trip to his house.

if you guys are familiar with Craigs List, its a place where people would talk you down your asking price. such as the situation I expected before posting a price. the same people expect you to deliver & assist with setting up.

so yes Im the same "A" hole that set up the nursing home tank out of my pocket, same "a" hole that sold Vinny RO/DI unit that he wanted to sell water from. same "A" hole that sold a 75 tank & asked for the buyer to simply donate anything he can afford to the community.

I am not businessman Marrone, but I am practical. you can ask $500 on that site, and hope you are lucky to get half that. I have used it before & know how it works.

yes folks, I too want to get something for something. be it gas, time or spit.

Happy Easter :splitspin

 

[Bob 1000]

OOOhhhhh... I like if not to many scratches I will take and of course sell on ebay or craig's list....lol just kidding but I'd like to se the tank if not to many scratches I'll pay for it...

Oh yeah this is why I like to meet people because I will only hook up someone who is friend worthy with cheap prices or free stuff...
Personally I don't think he did any thing wrong you could have done the same thing and made more money for that beautiful reef of yours or just gave it to a friend...
Great deal to a stranger..... Yeah right... Not me, I've been there and done that... Be friendly to friends, this is still just a computer relationship and the other person might be hustler of the year for all you know..And I ain't mad at that...GGrrrrr.....lmao..
Happy reefing...

Sorry posted late was refering to wingo's tank...

 

[cb747]

Well said Dexter! Its your tank and you can do what you want. This reminds me of someone i saw on RC that was given a FREE high end setup by someone with the financial means to give it away. The buyer ended up being trashed because he was selling what he didnt need. How many times have we all bought and sold things to make a few bucks? I know i have many times and will continue to do so. Dexter gave me the Hippo tang that yes im selling. It was beaing beat up by another tang. Maybe i should be trashed for that too. Gimme a break guys and gals. This thread is so not necessary.

 

[Bob 1000]

I hate all you guys and girl let's fight at a AE meet....lol Yes I will be throwing saltwater balloons...lmao..

 

[ssmtcarlo]

I never called you an ******* and i did not want any more money for it. You offered the frag and i accepted. Im not sayin anything agains you as a person just in general. You did offer me more money and i refused saying that it was given to me and i was not trying to make money. You offered me a frag of the toadstool and i accepted thank you when it grows out i will sell the frags for much less that what tyree TS goes for because i did not pay for the frag. I go to school full time and reefing is an expencive hobby. I think that when we take care of each other be it fee frags services or advice thats what community is about. When someone hooks you up with something pay it forward. keep it in the community. May be there is a reason that you posted on craigs list instead of MR. I have seen this happen a number of times. People offer things at great prices to the MR family only for the other party to turn around and sell it for a higher price. Yes i understand that this is how the world works but i was hoping that may be at least in the MR community we could change that a little. Just some food for thought.

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

ireefny, funny when you mention what people do in CL.
People would walk up to you at the last minute upon meeting up and said "I did not know you did not include a power supply." The described and pictured item is $10 posted while the power supply is costing $12. So now I revised my post to say $20 including power supply. HAHAHAHA

 

[michael stern]

Dex,

If I knew it was you, I'd never have defended you. I"m with the lynch mob......JK

Guys, pinkheine hit it right on the head. There are just countless threads here where members (and even mods) are desperate to start bashing, even when they have little to go on.

This is a hobby that is supposed to be fun. People need to lighten up.

 

[jhale]

Thread Closed.

 

[Chongpark27]

I think alot of people are overreacting without hearing the other side of the story. You never know, he/she might of needed extra cash during this recession to put food on the table, etc..... Imo We need to hear both sides b4 u pass judgement on someobody.

 

[jhale]

Chong got the last word in, and he's correct.

Now thread closed, again.