Brightwell Aquatics Phos remover

[tosiek]

So, ive been browsing the websites when ordering P04 remover and started looking through the Brightwell Aquatics line of products. I have heard they are descent products also, and not some 1700's elixer with hopes to cure cancer or make you young again.

Then i came across the BA Phosphate-E remover which is a liquid P04 binder. Which was then linked to the Phosphate-R remover which is a resin based filter media much like phosban but in resin bead form. Looked through to see what the resin beads actually were but got nothing. I wouldn't touch the binder as it just leaves whatever it binds in the tank thats not filtered out and ends up giving false P04 readings/long term problems.

So, interesting alternative to the phosban GFO method of phosphate removal, but curious if anyone had any experience with it or info.

 

[tosiek]

actually the only way i can see the liquid binder working is if you can drip it very slowly right into your skimmer but even then the skimmer isn;t efficient enough to remove it 100%.

 

[masterswimmer]

Interesting concept Tony. I wonder if the drip into the skimmer would benefit? I know whenever I add almost anything to my system, the skimmer normally (not all the time, but a lot of the time) will stop producing skimmate. The oils or ingredients in many products inhibits the skimmer from foaming. Just a thought.

swimmer

 

[mshur]

I use this liquid Po4 remover and i really like it...I dosed 1/2 of recomeded dosage .
my po4 was 0,10 and in 5 days got down to 0.05 ( hanna)
In a few weeks i am going to try Brightwell neozeo method as well..

mike

 

[pecan2phat]

I'm sure the liquid binder is the same as pool phosphate remover in which aquariums use to reduce their Po4 in large systems. This stuff has been around for a long time. It needs to be either skimmed out or filtered out with micron socks.

cb747 was using the pool grade (much cheaper) in his system and was able to bring his Po4 from 2.75 down to 0.28

 

[tosiek]

yeah, the problem with it is that it just binds the P04 so it can;t be used by anything or absorbed/affect the coral. it still ends up sitting and breaking down in the tank. I woudln;t recommend it at all unless the system was super skimmed. even then. Was just a random thought on my comment thinking out of the box on the liquid stuff. My post was geared towards the resin stuff.

Also no matter how much you skim or filter it it will always remain to some extent in your system. And thats bad in the long run. I wouldn't recommend the liquid stuff for anything except a 1 time quick fix to a po4 problem.

 

[sanjay]

Yes, this is most likey Lanthanum Chloride. It does work well, but the long term problem is the Lanthunum phosphate it leaves behind. Also, some people over long term see hazing on the glass when using this product. It seems to form Lanthanum Carbonate also, which lowers the alkalinity.

sanjay.