Might Have Spoke to Soon..=(

[Alfredo De La Fe]

Cooking would be overkill. It just needs to cycle so that all of the stuff that died can finish decomposing and anything that is going to die can, well, die.

-Alfred

 

[spykes]

how old is that rock in your tank???

 

[Tonyscoots84]

aight so at least we no what might be the problem. the rock. alfredo says dont cook the rock. but the rock might of caused the green algae water to come before and stayed like that. so what why wouldnt that happen again.

 

[Alfredo De La Fe]

Brass is made of copper. That is what probably killed all of the already weakened inverts on your liverock.

-Alfred

 

[nyfireman3097]

guys the brass is a BIG problem and would cause that

 

[Chiefmcfuz]

Do little changes 1 at a time to narrow down the problem. I would take the brass out first too.

 

[Tonyscoots84]

it would even cause a algae spurt. when the salt mixes with brass dont it put alot of toxins and unwanted chemicals in the tank.....

 

[Alfredo De La Fe]

It would put copper in the tank. All it takes is a little bit of copper to kill inverts.

You now need to remove the brass, make a 100% water change, run a LOT of activated carbon and PRAY that your rock and sand did not absorb too much copper.

-Alfred

 

[DRZL]

I dont have time right now for to read the thread but it sounds like your having a major algae bloom, which thru respiration can add co2 and lower your tanks pH...I think i mentioned baking soda in your other thread....do a WC tonight, run carbon if u can, and do another tmrw, a skimmer would kick ass right now...are your rocks full of algae by any chance? how often did/ do u have to clean the glass? is it white or green?

 

[masterswimmer]

Jim, Nick and Alfred are right on the money. Get the brass check valve out yesterday. Like they said, brass has copper in it.

Alfred gave the best course of action listed here so far.
1- remove brass check valve
2- move all livestock into a holding container with a heater, powerhead and skimmer if possible
3- do a 100% WC
4- run carbon active and aggressively, not passive.
5- Do all this ASAP to try to minimize the amount of time the copper is in contact with your LS, LR and silicone in your tank.
6- cross your fingers and pray. Small amounts of copper are deadly in a reef with inverts.

Good luck,
Russ

 

[DRZL]

I disagree BIGTIME w/ the brass causing the green water....its something you NEVER have in an aquarium but its NOT whats causing this.


If the tank is green its a algae bloom similar to a red tide...

BIG QUESTION: whered u get the sand? is it silica based? you can check by taking some out and pouring vinegar on it..if it fizzles its arag based if it doesnt its silica and it can easily cause HUGE blooms in tanks that are already having nutrient problems...

run a search on google or RC search (prbly will work at this time) for diatom bloom...BRASS sucks but this isnt a symptom of copper or heavy metal poisoning.

 

[DRZL]

BTW Copper will not be taken out by Carbon, it wont do a damn thing!, you need a polymer resin like Cuprizorb made by Seachem to take them out

SeaChem CupriSorb? is a powerful adsorbent of copper and heavy metals. CupriSorb? will remove copper more rapidly and efficiently than carbon and is thus ideal for emergency copper removal. It extracts all types of copper from water and, if in continuous use, from the gravel/substrate bed as well. CupriSorb? will allow maintenance of invertebrates in copper-treated tanks by removing copper leaching from substrates. A 1 L container is adequate for up to 600 gallons and removes over 3,000 mg of copper or 12 ppm in 600 gallons. It may be regenerated repeatedly. Marine or freshwater use.

 

[DRZL]

Bro, someone has to say it,

if your adding brass parts and using H2S-filled sand its obvious that your not doing your HW research-wise. Its fine to ask for help and all but in all honesty you need to do some research of your own. Im not ragging on you but your either a knowledgable reefer or your just in it for the F of it. Dont be the latter

 

[masterswimmer]

Good recommendation with the CupriSorb. I wasn't advocating the carbon for that reason though. I was recommending the 100% WC to remove suspended copper. The CupriSorb is actually a great idea. I wasn't aware of it because I don't use copper or any brass fittings.

I'd still recommend the 100% WC and the carbon in addition to the CupriSorb.

Russ

 

[KuyaMark]

Hey Chris take out the check valve and do a water change let the skimmer run all day and if you want you can borrow my dual bak pak 2 skimmer just skimm the hell out of the tank! Hope everything gets better. Just come to my house and pick up the skimmer!

Jigga

 

[nyfireman3097]

Andre the brass will cause a alage bloom from the chemicals it gives off

 

[Chris5]

Damm I didnt not realize this post jumped so much at night ...Ok brass will come out and see what happens from there maybe even a water change...........
Kuya i should take your skimmer too....

Ok so brass is out....about to do a water change as we speak.....

 

[Chris5]

ok did a 45% water change took out brass check valve and am running skimmer that i have until i get kuyas hopefully now we can see if that was the problem, although just want to have everyone remember it took about 6 months to have any of this happen until now it used to be crystal clear with the old sand and brass on......

 

[spykes]

well brass is 75 percent copper and the rest are zinc, heavy metal corrosion shouldnt relate much to the algae bloom, but usually algae consumes certain metals such as iron in the water, but i do not think it consumes copper by any chance. any free moving copper will attach to the CupriSorb, but copper as a heavy metal by anychance will still be in the silcone in your tank, i hope there will be less of a chance of destroying your corals, but CupriSorb will also attach other molecules besides copper so becareful on how much you use and the duration of time. 90percnet i trust seachem products to do what they do. I also wrote a huge thread on Hydrogen sulfide in MR. I dont know if you checked it out or not, but chris you really need to do some reasearch, silcated sand will harm your tank, if you used sugar silcated sand from homedepot your better off taking apart the tank and starting fresh. Skimmer will take care of your phytoplanktonic bloom, these creatures use light as a source to generate a glucose and it's the basic building block of life. But please go read for sake of your animals. Not saying your a bad reefer, but a reefer needs to learn on his own to form his own opinion about his tank. take a look at my sig.

 

[spykes]

Bro, someone has to say it,

if your adding brass parts and using H2S-filled sand its obvious that your not doing your HW research-wise. Its fine to ask for help and all but in all honesty you need to do some research of your own. Im not ragging on you but your either a knowledgable reefer or your just in it for the F of it. Dont be the latter

i agree with you drzl.
chris read this.
http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7148