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Mattl22

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I relize that the requirements for every coarl is not the same! What I need to know is my light fixture suffecent to grow sps or do I need a stronger fixture??
Just want to know if it will work in a perfect world I know I could get a better fixture but right now this is what I got!


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how tall is the tank? if its more then 18 tall 150w wont cut it, id say 250-275 would be ideal. thats what i use on my 120 its 24" tall.
 

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Matt, if you keep some lesser light demanding sps very high up on the rock, within about the top 6" of water (about 14"-16" from the bulb) the coral should be ok. Below that level on the rock the PAR will drop off so much so that sps will have difficulty keeping their color.

A pair of 250w bulbs would have been more appropriate on a 75g tank if you wanted to run an sps dominant system.

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Is that enough power to grow sps corals
from this your just asking if it will keep sps, no it wont color up a purple monster or some other more light demanding acro's will you be able to keep most sps high up in the tank uner these then yes is your answer, reason i said it takes more then just lights is seeing the tank is pretty new for sps to really flourish you need a established tank or alot of know how with sps
 

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What's PAR


Sanjay Joshi said:
PAR is the Photsynthetically Available Radiation which is all radiation between 400-700 nm wavelength range. It can be measured in several units. Just like distance can be measured in feet, meters, etc. PAR can be measured in different units used to measure radiation. When PAR is measured by the number of photons falling on a given area in a given amount of time, this is called PPFD and the units used are micromoles per meter square per second.

Lets totally oversimplify the measurement of PAR as related to reefkeeping (because I am not a lighting expert by any stretch of the imagination).

The measurement of PAR is a valuable tool when trying to figure out the appropriateness of one bulb over another in a reef setup. As the PAR number declines so does the effective usefulness of the light reaching the coral beneath it. Therefore, a higher PAR reading measured at the same depth in our tanks translates into more useful light reaching the coral at that depth.

The reasons PAR would decline in our tanks varies. The first reason that comes to mind is the quality of the bulb itself. Two bulbs with the same wattage and same kelvin rating can have very different PAR measurements at the same distance from the bulb. One of the reasons can be the internal components of the bulb itself (manufacturing differences). Another reason can be the ballast that is driving the two bubs.

Another couple of reasons that PAR will decline is distance from a bulb and even water quality. The farther away from a bulb a coral is placed the lower a bulbs' PAR reading will be. Now if we take the same exact bulb (wattage, kelvin temperature, bulb type (MH, T5, PC, VHO, etc), brand, etc.) and only vary the water quality, the bulb in the tank with nice clear 'polished' water will have a higher PAR reading than the bulb above the tank with lots of detritus floating in suspension and 'yellowish' or cloudy water, assuming both coral are placed at the same depth and position below their respective bulb.

As you can see there is a multitude of contributing factors to PAR measurement. When selecting bulbs for our tanks we can effect the PAR readings by keeping our water quality high, as described above. Other than that, the same bulb should theoretically produce the same PAR with all the 'mechanical' factors being consistent.

This can be a very confusing topic. I hope I helped at least a little and didn't totally confuse you.

Russ
 
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Mattl22

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Yes I still have a lot to learn / buy for right now i'm trying to determine if my light will keep what I have until I have extra cash to get a better fixture hopefully soon!!
All my coral seem to be doing fine and some are noticeably growing


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Theres a couple variables here that will help determine if its adequate. Are the t5's high output (thats pretty important)? The color bulbs you choose will also effect coral growth significantly. For example; in an 18" deep tank if you went with two 150w 10,000 k mh and two 54w ge 6500k t5's and placed your higher light corals at least half way up the tank, you would probably get fantastic growth from most sps but the coloration would be lousy. If you went with two 54w ati blue+ or some other quality actinic and 20,000k or 14,000k mh bulbs and placed the corals in the upper half of the tank, the colors would really pop but the growth would slow. Blue light penetrates deeper than white light, and depending on the bulb, may have a higher par, even though it doesnt look as bright.

Personally, I think you'd be fine with the fixture you have for most sps provided you kept the corals off the bottom of the tank and the t5's are high output since a 75 gallon is not a particularly deep tank. There are many different species of sps, and Im sure you could find plenty of variety to stock your tank with the lights you have. I reccomend doing some research and taking some time to think about what you are trying to accomplish with the tank. This is completely unconventional but you might wanna check out hortilux blue mh bulbs, theyre not usually used in aquariums, but I have some experience with them and theyre awesome bulbs that put out a really attractive white/blue light (if I used single eneded mh's theyre the bulbs I'd buy)

It is important to note that light is only one factor in keeping sps; pristine water quality, proper chemistry, and adequate flow play an equally important role. Success depends paying equal attention to all of these factors.

The best way to find out is to set it up grab a few frags for 10-20 bucks and see how they do. I've seen stonies growing in places they had no business being and I've seen sps fail in tanks that were perfect on paper. If I contradicted anyone else who offered their advice I am by no means saying they are wrong or trying to pick a fight, all Im saying is everyone in this hobby has their own way of doing things and although there are generally accepted guidlines there really is no right or wrong way to do anything (i.e. deep vs shallow sandbeds, blue light vs. white light, refugiums vs. sumps vs. sumpless), theres just the way that works for you.

gl and keep us posted!
 

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Thank you guys for your help. This weekend I will try and figure out how to post pics from my camera so u guys can have a better idea of what's going on in my tank. I will also test and list all parameters truthfully lol
List lighting/ water change schedule

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for now if u have any sps id put them at the highest point in your tank, this will help them live....er better? till u get the appropriate lights.
 

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