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Chiefmcfuz
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What makes a Reefkeeper/Aquarist a responsible one.
Please discuss.
Please discuss.
- Location
- hells kitchen
One who does the homework and follows directions BEFORE jumping blindly into the hobby.
- Location
- Greenpoint Brooklyn, NY
I thought the answer delt with cookies and milk.
all of the above and finding the time to take care of the animals your holding hostage against their will. :cheers:
all of the above and finding the time to take care of the animals your holding hostage against their will. :cheers:
- Location
- Philippines
A responsible reefer is one who treats their friends the same way they treat their reef... with care and respect.
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- Location
- Greenpoint Brooklyn, NY
I always tell my fish when i put them into the tank "Your not going anywhere untill they pay up so don't try to escape"
Ink what if the reefer treats their friends like crap?
Ink what if the reefer treats their friends like crap?
- Location
- Philippines
That's for another thread :kiss:
- Location
- Marine Park
If any of you ever have the chance, the owner of Absolutely Fish in NJ does a great presentation on this and it's worth seeing. I'll try and paraphrase but it's been awhile. He starts off with:
"I think all of us care about what happens in the ocean and to the reefs of the world but let's not kid ourselves. We're not doing anything good, right? I mean, there's nothing good about our hobby and that's ok. We hope that but what we're doing we're learning about a mostly unknown environment, which we are. We hope that we're educating others about what we love, which again we are. We should be honest with ourselves, when we start complaining of the devastation of some of the world's reefs, that it is due to us. Our actions are speeding up the process of making sure these animals cease to exist and we should be honest with ourselves about that."
It's not a bash fest he's just trying to point out that what we are doing is not good nor responsible but we can make as little an impact as possible. He tries to remind everyone that it's a supply and demand business and what's available is what sells. Stop buying it and it'll stop being pulled from the ocean.
He does a bit on tangs:
"Every hobbyist owns at least one tang, most more. For example we sell tons of tangs. Where do they go? Right? Everyone owns a tang and tangs all get to be the size of dinner plates. So where are all these tangs going? They end up in the toilet."
He does a piece on cyanide and dynamite and the practices that have utterly destroyed the reefs in the Philippians. He shows pictures of what the reefs look like now compared to what they used to look like. (Think Fish Town)
I still shop there by the way
"I think all of us care about what happens in the ocean and to the reefs of the world but let's not kid ourselves. We're not doing anything good, right? I mean, there's nothing good about our hobby and that's ok. We hope that but what we're doing we're learning about a mostly unknown environment, which we are. We hope that we're educating others about what we love, which again we are. We should be honest with ourselves, when we start complaining of the devastation of some of the world's reefs, that it is due to us. Our actions are speeding up the process of making sure these animals cease to exist and we should be honest with ourselves about that."
It's not a bash fest he's just trying to point out that what we are doing is not good nor responsible but we can make as little an impact as possible. He tries to remind everyone that it's a supply and demand business and what's available is what sells. Stop buying it and it'll stop being pulled from the ocean.
He does a bit on tangs:
"Every hobbyist owns at least one tang, most more. For example we sell tons of tangs. Where do they go? Right? Everyone owns a tang and tangs all get to be the size of dinner plates. So where are all these tangs going? They end up in the toilet."
He does a piece on cyanide and dynamite and the practices that have utterly destroyed the reefs in the Philippians. He shows pictures of what the reefs look like now compared to what they used to look like. (Think Fish Town)
I still shop there by the way
- Location
- Huntington
That pretty much sums it up Fritz. I have always thought that the responsible aquarist respects the fragility and dependence of our aquatic wards and cares for them properly. I have seen so many people come in and try to buy stuff thinking they can blow me off when I tell them they shouldn't do it. Their faces are always priceless when I ultimately refuse to sell to them instead handing them a book and telling them they should read up.
- Location
- Overland Park, KS
lfsmarineguy - YOU are a responsible reefer - at best, just like friends don't let friends drive drunk, responsible reefers don't let other reefers make tragic errors, and at least, try to inform and teach....
responsible reefers buy aquacultured animals and then trade, give away or reasonably sell frags of the corals that grow in their tanks.
responsible reefers are honest when their friends say, "wow - salt water... isn't that really hard?"
responsible reefers form supportive communities and help each other out!!!
responsible reefers buy aquacultured animals and then trade, give away or reasonably sell frags of the corals that grow in their tanks.
responsible reefers are honest when their friends say, "wow - salt water... isn't that really hard?"
responsible reefers form supportive communities and help each other out!!!
- Location
- Marine Park
well said guys (and gal) and yes I must agree, LFS you are a responsible reefer, certainly more than I. (I've "set free" a few fish in my day)
- Location
- Ossining, NY
Responsible reefkeeping is an oxymoron - more "Moron" than "oxy"
See Post #14 - very well said, and, if I can remeber correctly, the genesis for the creation of this board.
House
See Post #14 - very well said, and, if I can remeber correctly, the genesis for the creation of this board.
House
- Location
- Marine Park
Very well said Jim!
A reef keeping friend of mine just bought a Prious. I said "You're kidding right"
He responded back something about oil, environment, caring, blah blah something else. It's all a good argument just not from a guy that runs nearly 2,000 watts of electricity for a fishtank! He laughed when I pointed it out to him and said "well I guess I have to make up for that somehow!"
pretty funny.
A reef keeping friend of mine just bought a Prious. I said "You're kidding right"
He responded back something about oil, environment, caring, blah blah something else. It's all a good argument just not from a guy that runs nearly 2,000 watts of electricity for a fishtank! He laughed when I pointed it out to him and said "well I guess I have to make up for that somehow!"
pretty funny.
- Location
- Ossining, NY
Everyone has to justify - after all it's the western way, isn't it?
Rubber for sneakers etc . .
In all seriousness though, and back to topic, we have extravegencies (is that a wurd?) that other people don't have - the good news is that we have an awareness that what we do is not right, and that we try (some more than others :meow
to do it as responsibly as we can. This board, I would venture to say, has collectively traded thousands of frags, colonies fish, dry goods etc - I think we should all be proud of being part of what MR has accomplished over the years - our actions, single handedly drives market movement - notice how much more technology has played a part and the availability of resources/equipment now - 15 yrs ago, we'd all be running plenums, killing entire tanks with plenum leaks - and now, not so many happen like that.and a simple reminder of how to give back (I believe I posted this before) . . . In the hurricanes a few years back ORA lost a ton of broodstock - I wrote to them and sent them 3 large frags of the ones they lost - they were very grateful and now still offer that coral - they could have just gone and collected it again - one coral saved!
House
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