Look. I'm getting quite tired of going round and round. To start with, Mary didn't "champion" this cause. When MAC first hit me with the idea, I disagreed with it. However, they don't like you to just say "No, you can't do that". You have to give them some alternative. That's when I suggested the 3 criteria and they put it in the Core Standards. At that point, a committee was going to be formed and I was going to be on it. I thought it would be a good idea to get hobbyist input because they seem to always be supportive of the idea of a list, so I started the original thread. And man, am I sorry I ever did. This is not my "cause". I am involved in so many other issues I can't even keep them straight. I just don't feel the need to run over here and discuss all of it- especially now. So here's where we stand now. There's going to be a list eventually, currently with large and deadly and who knows what else. It's something MAC wants to do and I'm working with them on it. As I stated in a previous post in the Hurting thread, I think it is extremely low priority as there are so many other things that are more important. I don't know why I have to say things 12 times to each person before they understand what I'm saying, but this is the last time I will state my position on the USL. Anyone who wants to know my opinions on it can sift through the threads- it's all there- in triplicate.