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PeterIMA

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Gresham, You are free to present whatever you want. I can't stop you from discussing business dealings. If it involved Cortez Marines, perhaps you should clear it with your former employer (Steve Robinson).

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Gresham,

I must say what ever he did (Ferdinand) back then, it didn't help. They listened to Steve for a few shipments but slid back into what ever it was that was thought to them by whom ever. You can't put it on Arso and if your trying it would be more a reflection of his trainings obtained by Ferdy.

Actually, you forgot about the fact that the MAC got involved in Les and forced Telapak and Arsonetri's NGO (Porso Nusantara) out of the picture. The MAC got a grant for $700,000 by claiming that they had trained the collectors in Les. Ferdinand has been faced with retraining collectors that learned bad habits (what the MAC taught them).

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Actually, you forgot about the fact that the MAC got involved in Les and forced Telapak and Arsonetri's NGO (Porso Nusantara) out of the picture.
The MAC got a grant for $700,000 by claiming that they had trained the collectors in Les
. Ferdinand has been faced with retraining collectors that learned bad habits (what the MAC taught them).

Peter,
Did you say $700,000.00 they spent in Bali? Thats a stunning revelation!
Plus its new news here ?
I relize that some people have a slight personal irritation at being told that 3/4 a million was squandered in the name of reform but I for one am flabbergasted and had no idea.
I can see all along that we took too gentle an approach to all this. One day we may be judged as the ones who stood by and did nothing for the reefs while Nero played the flute and Rome burned.

Steve
 
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PeterIMA":2i69l1bg said:
Gresham, You are free to present whatever you want. I can't stop you from discussing business dealings. If it involved Cortez Marines, perhaps you should clear it with your former employer (Steve Robinson).

Peter

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I'm going to lock this one since it's meandering around with some potential arguments brewing.

Peace,

Chip
 

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Upon review, I've reopened the thread as I don't think it warrants closing on grounds of potential arguments. Arguments are useful and encouraged. Just keep it factual and civil.
 

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Dearest Naesco,

We got some yellow tangs in last night, as well as koles. They were neither emaciated or sick. Sometimes it's the LFS's fault, sometimes the LA wholesalers fault, sometimes the hawaiian shippers fault. Just because you see a skinny tang in an LFS doesn't mean you can lay blanket blame on one group.
 

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JeremyR":12shqv15 said:
Dearest Naesco,

We got some yellow tangs in last night, as well as koles. They were neither emaciated or sick. Sometimes it's the LFS's fault, sometimes the LA wholesalers fault, sometimes the hawaiian shippers fault. Just because you see a skinny tang in an LFS doesn't mean you can lay blanket blame on one group.

I am sure the the small emaciated yellow tang I often see are received by the LFS in that condition as I often frequent the stores.
It is an industry problem probably not due to the collector but improper handling from them to the LFS.
I am sure you agree that this must stop and industry must address it.
Wayne Ryan
 

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