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SciGuy2":25bk8knj said:
Vitz,

Great! So CORL does not fit the model. Maybe GARF doesn't either. Like I said - not accusing anyone of anything. Just posing a question.

So do you think that the staff of the non-profit orgs have to be non-compensated for their cause to be pure?


i'm curious as to why you thought corl fit the model in the first place

where DO you get your info from ? :lol:

my answer to your 2nd q is no, everyone who works deserves compensation

people have to eat, do they not ?


TANSTAAFL :wink:
 

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clkohly,

It ocurred to me that I was being baited into turning a well-meaning abstract ethics discussion into a finger pointing match, which I definately do not want to engage in.

I figured that there is no value in yet another discussion of that type in this forum.
 
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SciGuy2":rvq7kko8 said:
clkohly,

It ocurred to me that I was being baited into turning a well-meaning abstract ethics discussion into a finger pointing match, which I definately do not want to engage in.

I figured that there is no value in yet another discussion of that type in this forum.

i'd suggest that your very first post was a finger pointing attempt to begin with, else why even bring up the 'two you thought fit that model', to paraphrase your now non existent post :lol:

could it be it's more because you realized that your information, sources, and conclusions weren't based on any correct info to begin with ? :lol:

:? :roll:
 
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vitz":3em204an said:
SciGuy2":3em204an said:
vitz":3em204an said:
i'm just curious as to which ones YOU think fit the model

GARF and CORL.

I might as well say upfront that I do not believe that GARF or CORL are in the non-profit business to get the quick buck. People are sometimes quick to jump to conclusions on these boards and I do not want to people to infer that I'm accusing anyone of malfeasance. I'm not. Thus my hesitation about citing org names.

My thought is that while there are currently two orgs that fit this model more may come in the future. These future orgs may well not have such lofty goals. They may be self serving non-profit groups intended primarily to enrich the principle officers. My questions are: how would we figure out who had gone astray, and, how could we watchdog such operations?

Suppose we have an NGO soliciting and accepting public funds. They then use those funds to create a coral farming operation and sell the frags for profit with the money going to: enlarging the farming operation, research, ecological projects, social programs, and NGO staff salaries.

it's interesting that you think that corl fits that model, seeing as how NONE of the corl staff gets paid by corl, or by donations :? :roll:

your not mentioning mac in this context is very telling, btw :wink:
 
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[self degrading humor]Hey! They locked the other thread by this same title before I had a chance to post and delete! :lol: :lol: :lol: [/self degrading humor]

...BTW Vitz, I believe that you might need to rethink your conclusions regarding my opinions of nearly all of the MO related non-profits. I'll bet ya a betcha that you don't know where I stand on them...
 
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SciGuy2":ab7trol8 said:
[self degrading humor]Hey! They locked the other thread by this same title before I had a chance to post and delete! :lol: :lol: :lol: [/self degrading humor]

...BTW Vitz, I believe that you might need to rethink your conclusions regarding my opinions of nearly all of the MO related non-profits. I'll bet ya a betcha that you don't know where I stand on them...

indeed i don't

it's why i'm asking you all the questions that i am in the first place....

i haven't edited them out, so feel free to answer anytime :)


i'm especially curious as to how you feel mac fits in to the whole issue of non profits, and percieved morality issues about responsibilities to donors
 

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