The law and Flordia ricordea/ricordia

[Kalkbreath]

Just how much rock do the authorities think might be coming in with the ricordia? Say we placed all the Florida recordia collected last year .......rock and all in the back of a pick up truck , do we really think it would even fill one truck bed?
The authorities are not concerned with the over collection of ricordia polyps.........its the tiny bit of rocks that has their pants in a wad?
that seems quite silly.
Collecting ricordia isn't like when Steve collects flame hawks. Collectors dont swim out and start crowbaring the reef indiscriminately looking for ricordia .
Only the area directly under the soft coral is effected and its not much rock even with the fist sized Haitian ricordia on rock.

 

[Anonymous]

Collecting ricordia isn't like when Steve collects flame hawks. Collectors dont swim out and start crowbaring the reef indiscriminately looking for ricordia ..

trying to harbor a sense of community with that comment, huh Kalk? That's just the type of comment to mod's have asked us to stop doing, remember?

 

[bookfish]

I would like to point out again that there is nothing to be gained by dissing others.
Disagree all you want but be nice about it.
Please.
-Jim

 

[Kalkbreath]

I was only teasing ,
Steve seems so sure crow bars are used to collect flame hawks in Tonga. one might assume it was from first hand experience>
I Dont really believe Steve would do so ..... I respect him more then that .

 

[clarionreef]

Why thank you for the off handed compliment,
Of course I would never use crow bars to collect flame hawks...
I never did and have collected hundreds.

But I've hired divers who came over from the other shippers and they spilled the beans.

I set up operation in Tonga in the late 80's to simply collect the normal way ie. Hawaiian style.
When collecting Flame hawks you never have to break the coral on purpose.
After my time there Tonga got invaded by city business people looking to cash in on easy money on the fish trade....they let the locals segue into hammer collecting and crowbar collecting and they certainly provided no training to the contrary...as they themselves couldn't catch a hawk to save their lives. [ familiar syndrome].
This tells me that if the fish are not easy to catch...at first try...that American business types will destroy the coral in a heartbeat to collect fish....hmmm.
Does that mean that given the same situation in the Philippines that they would also use cyanide? It would seem so. As importers they obviously have not had a problem with it.

Decimating the fore-reef of thousands of poecillapora heads to hammer out flame hawks was worthy of permit cancellations....but as I said, Tongan fishery folks are very easy going...and tolerant, like Filipino fisheries.

Steve

 

[Kalkbreath]

I guess thats why there is hundred of square kilometers of loose live rock today in Tonga [fishing in the 1980s]
Theres hardly any fish coming out of Tonga ,too much money to be made in coral, plus there is no room on the planes out of the islands.
Short flights are filled with coral orders [and tuna], the long trips too long for fish so they haul Rock.
You know well as any that Flame hawks are so cheap from Tahiti there is little reason to collect them in Tonga.

 

[JT]

Speaking of Florida Ricordia...

Remember that Krazy Kiki chick from a few months back who was/is whoring out ricordia online from her magical, or is that mystical, 'warehouse' in Miami (even though she says she lives in Texas)?

Well, she's found a new niche. Pimping these "stress reliever" kits on eGay. These "kits" are tiny nano cubes filled with several varities of nudibranchs.

Check it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46308&item=3983672981

Shiat dawg, why doesn't she just cram a Black Tip shark in there and be done with it.

- UncleJT

 

[JeremyR]

Man, that's pitiful.

 

[Anonymous]

What happens when all the nudibranches croak? Will my stress be relieved then???

Peace,

Chip

 

[Anonymous]

Speaking of Florida Ricordia...

Remember that Krazy Kiki chick from a few months back who was/is whoring out ricordia online from her magical, or is that mystical, 'warehouse' in Miami (even though she says she lives in Texas)?

Well, she's found a new niche. Pimping these "stress reliever" kits on eGay. These "kits" are tiny nano cubes filled with several varities of nudibranchs.

Check it:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=46308&item=3983672981

Kinda funny, but more disgusting then funny. She's now right up there with the Nemo and Dori cubes. Hmmm shipping caluarpa to California, now that will get you and your custom some nice fines Kiki. Ignorance of the law is illegal in the United States

 

[JT]

She's also selling Seahorses and Flame Scallops on eBay.

:x

- UncleJT

 

[JeremyR]

Why are you being so mean to her JT?

Hehe.

 

[clarionreef]

Must we all remain respectful despite the revulsion we feel?
This trivializing and bastardizing everything we believe in should not be made to feel welcome at all.
IMO
Steve

 

[Kalkbreath]

What happens when all the nudibranches croak? Will my stress be relieved then???

Peace,

Chip

Its like the good luck arowana in Chinese folklore, the fish takes the hit should bad luck come a knocking. Should the slugs die, it means your ill will has been diverted and absorbed by the pets. :wink:
They dont all me the spin master for nothing . [wheres my check Kiki?]

 

[bookfish]

We all must hold out a minimum level of respect for each other.
Here's an example.
"Kiki, i can't believe you would do such a shamelessly callous and stupid thing."
This is allright.
"Kiki, I can't believe how shamelessly stupid and callous you are"
This is not all right.
It's a fine line but it matters.
Thx-Jim

 

[Anonymous]

hmmm...


someone who does callous and stupid things isn't callous and stupid ?




how stupid! :twisted:

 

[clarionreef]

Vitz,
If it looks like a duck...
and walks like a duck...
and acts like a duck....
Its not nice to point out that its a duck.
Steve

 

[bookfish]

It's semantics but it's important to help us all differentiate between debate and mudslinging.
I have, at times in the past done stupid and callous things but I don't think I'm overall a callous idiot.
Let's try and confine our negativity to things (ideas, products, etc...) instead of people.-Jim

 

[Anonymous]

Please note the new ruleing on Fl. Ricordea. You may NOT take any rock with the polyps. Not the sq. inch some say. Most of you know who I am but let me tell the rest. My name is Bob Kelton owner of D.R.Imports and drimports.com. I am the ONLY[/u] importer from Haiti that brings in ricordea on rock. Please note that the Fl Marine officers are scanning the web for ricordea with rock attached. They then check with me to see if I have sold it. If not then cha ching.

P.S. any wholesaler selling a pet shop in Fl is required to have a fl wholesale Lic. $1500.00[/url]

I need clairafication of this..................

Does the new law forbid the taking of rics or just the rock it's attached to?

 

[bobimport]

LOL Alex is at it again. Kinkey is Alex's front man (woman). Or as he is knowen in Miami ... Orca and this from Big Bob LOL. He lives in a warehouse in N Miami. AKA Ocean Life, atlantic Marine Life amonge others. A good person to stay away from. I am out about $2,000 due to him.

As to the law on ricordea you can collect it but not the rock it is on. So what the collectors do is hammer a rock up from the bottom then scrape the rock and pitch it back.................

Bob Kelton
G-D's gift to the business :twisted: