A Complete Mystery

[triggerhappy]

Hi all need to find out what may have happened. tanks is a 46 Gallon Bow Salinity 1.22 Amonia 0 Nitrites 0 Nitrates 10. Ph 8.2 set up for 5 1/2 Months. Lps only Compact flourescent lighting 10 k Bulb and acitinic. 45 lbs Live rock came from an established systems for more than a year and about 3/4 inch live sand. my temp was hitting around 82 corals were starting to look no so happy i bought an oceanic chillher 1/10 hp. i installed with a 300 gph pump i ran from wet dry through the chiller through return. oh yest wet dry with bio ballls and a skimmer.
My stocking WAS 1 Midas Blenny, 1 Bi color Blenny two O clowns, 1 Pink spotted Goby and made the mistake of introducing a small mimic Tang that my wife begged me to buy should have known better. Before we bought the tang . temp became 76 and steady i took my time bring it down two weeks later we bought the tang developed Ich died in a week and a half after that blennies started flashing no sings on the clowns but clowns died first one on the first day the other the next 4th July massacre happened and lost the midas and the goby only thing left is bi color looks ok once in a while smacks himself into the sand but eating fine. Sorry about the book i just wrote i dint see any signs of ich on the other fish i don't know what may have happened. Any thoughts oh yeah corals look real happy now

 

[jrobbins]

the tang developed Ich died in a week and a half after that blennies started flashing no sings on the clowns but clowns died first one on the first day the other the next 4th July massacre happened and lost the midas and the goby only thing left is bi color looks ok once in a while smacks himself into the sand but eating fine.

isn't it great when you can answer your own question

my guess is the bicolor has ich (maybe velvet...you sure ich is what killed the tang? velvet is harder to spot and kills quicker). if you want to save him pull him from the system and treat him. also might have to leave your tank fishless for a couple months...

 

[triggerhappy]

i have already pulled the bi color out and is in QT. As soon as i noticed the spots on the tang i pulled him out i thought ich attached fish after they fell off the infected fish and looked for a new host the tang was there for at least a day once i noticed it. but than athe blennies starting flashing and than gasping for Air. i guess im too stupid or stuborn to accept that i really should not have introduced another fish in my tank and believe me no more fish but my three year old keeps asking about nemo and biggie thats what he called the female clown. it really sucks !

 

[jrobbins]

you probably need to medicate, not just quarantine the fish. As all the other fish are already dead, you could just qt the bicolor in the display but i wouldnt medicate there...as for introducing another fish, if you add more fish right now you are probably going to have to explain to your kid how they died too...

since you seem to already have a qt tank, just use it in the future and this wont be an issue. meantime let the tank go fallow for a few months.

 

[UnknownWaters]

Or you could try Kick Ich by ruby reef it works great all ich clear in 2 weeks fish doing well 5 weeks since I had a problem. new fish going in tomorrow. And I feel your pain I also have a 3 year old who asked where nemo and dory went that just sucks to try to hide from a kid tell him he is lost looking for his dad and he will be back soon. its works trust me. lol

 

[jrobbins]

Or you could try Kick Ich by ruby reef it works great all ich clear in 2 weeks fish doing well 5 weeks since I had a problem. new fish going in tomorrow. And I feel your pain I also have a 3 year old who asked where nemo and dory went that just sucks to try to hide from a kid tell him he is lost looking for his dad and he will be back soon. its works trust me. lol

yeah...i don't trust you...all the ich 'cures' are pretty much snake oil. if you have it in your system there isnt a whole lot you can do other than bomb the system with bleach or copper, or let it go fallow to get rid of it.

 

[triggerhappy]

I am medicating allready he seems to be doing better. Although i am medicating with i know you guys will think im crazy but it has worked before i have used Garlic Extreme by Kent. A week of that and ich gone. Ok Let me hear it now. and yeah my three year old found the fish dead cant tell him anything other than his fish died. i am not buying any fish anytime soon im going on vacation next moth and wont be around to check up on this so im safe there.

 

[UnknownWaters]

yeah...i don't trust you...all the ich 'cures' are pretty much snake oil. if you have it in your system there isnt a whole lot you can do other than bomb the system with bleach or copper, or let it go fallow to get rid of it.

I dont give a rats arse who or what you trust all I said was it worked for me and my tank and fish are doing well and yes the garlic does help out alot.

 

[KathyC]

I am medicating allready he seems to be doing better. Although i am medicating with i know you guys will think im crazy but it has worked before i have used Garlic Extreme by Kent. A week of that and ich gone. Ok Let me hear it now. and yeah my three year old found the fish dead cant tell him anything other than his fish died. i am not buying any fish anytime soon im going on vacation next moth and wont be around to check up on this so im safe there.

Not going to dance on you for using Garlic Extreme, it can be useful in helping keep a fish eating through an ich outbreak, but as you already know, it is not a cure. You may possibly get lucky
As far as the ich being 'gone' ...very doubtful, it probably just fell off the fish as part of it's regular life cycle and it appears that it is gone. Trust me, it isn't, it's just elsewhere in your tank, and may well still be hidden within the fish..in the gills especially...
Your upcoming vacation is a blessing in disguise. If you can, keep the blenny in the QT and leave your tank devoid of fish until after you return (plus whatever time it takes to add up to 8 weeks) and then make a special trip with your family to pick out some new fish ...and please put them in a QT for a couple of weeks when you get them home.

 

[jrobbins]

Try actually reading the last line of your first post...

I dont give a rats arse who or what you trust all I said was it worked for me and my tank and fish are doing well and yes the garlic does help out alot.

 

[triggerhappy]

Thanks alot for your help and advised. I have bouts with ich before but never anything like this an as fast as this, it took for two weeks for the fish to die. well leasoned learned

 

[UnknownWaters]

Try actually reading the last line of your first post...

Thats my opinion im entitled to it. I will continue to play test tank dummy with this product in about 3 to 4 weeks I will give you another update on kick ich.