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  1. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    You're ok. The American Gov't didn't sign. The spirit of the Convention is that there is some benefit to the "supply" country... a surtax (yeah, I'm Canadian) that went into conservation / environmental protection in the supply country, technology transfer etc. Ironically, news just broke in...
  2. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    Re: Ballast Water. You're absolutely right ... ballast water is a potential source of invasive species and to this end, there are a number of regulations and strategies to try and reduce the likelihood of invasions via ballast water. In considering possible ecological implications, there is...
  3. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    It ain't noble and it ain't anachronistic ... The policy is entrenched in the UN Convention on Biological Diversity. It was established primarily in response to bioprospecting in Amazonian rain forests and is broadly discussed / implemented in the pharmaceutical and agricultural sectors. Costa...
  4. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    Horge, The reason I put the link up was so that people could see under which conditions introductions would be considered appropriate ... as opposed to a blanket ban. If the species exists in the area already (I too thought tridacna were native to the Phils) it is more of a stocking issue for...
  5. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    The coral farms I'm aware of in Indo are all open systems (either in the sea or flow through) hence the direct risk of wild release ... but it would be good to know more. Had the US signed the Convention on Biological Diversity, they would be in contravention for culturing species not found in...
  6. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    Glad to hear Bill and thanks for the clarification ... the suggestion of bringing the link to club members' attention was more by way of fending off such approaches in the future ... the broader the awareness of the problems of moving things around (or releasing your Indopacific angel off...
  7. Should species be propagated in different oceans?

    Hi Bill, The link below is from the World Conservation Union's website and is there policy on introductions: http://www.iucn.org/themes/ssc/pubs/policy/transe.htm It would be worth the clubs having a look at it. Generally, introductions ...or moving non native species into new areas ... is...
  8. Calling a spade a spade

    Dizzy, When used in the context of information or the hobby, I have little problem with the term ... i have no trouble with someone saying that the response to USL is emotional or to cyanide ... we know it is an emotive issue. I do have a problem when the term is applied to an individual who...
  9. Calling a spade a spade

    Mary, I'd just like to say that I've always read your posts as fiery and passionate rather than "emotional" The term "emotional" is often used to imply there is no base or substance to the statements. It tends to be used as a derogatory term to undermine arguments that individuals don't have...
  10. The shell game ....

    Kalk, It is for posts such as these that I adore you ... thank you for your irreverancy. Sorry for starting a new post with an old quote but this was too good to leave sitting in a thread that, as Rover suggested, has served its purpose. I can imagine a couple of responses: (1) Well, if Fiji...
  11. Do we need professional STANDARDS?

    I would think that being a professional aquarist would be defined as one who only trades in sustainably exploited species. Cyanide is but one component, albeit, an emotive one. The difference between overexploitation and use of cyanide is loss of habitat. Thus, with cyanide use, recovery...
  12. From Ocean to Aquarium

    Rover, Thanks for drawing attention to this review. I remain worried about the growing claims of sustainability ... in the absence of resource assessments. This is MAC's strategy and I am puzzled by the uncritical approach to this key question in the GMAD document. If anyone would like to...
  13. From Ocean to Aquarium

    Thank you Doug, for your review of the UNEP document on the trade in marine ornamental species: “From Ocean to Aquarium: The global trade in marine ornamental species” (www.unep-wcmc.org/resources/publication ... uarium.pdf) Your summary accurately captures the main points of the document...
  14. Proposed Forum Guidelines & Hopes for MAC Representation

    Easy there Steve, Some of us "ladies" can handle the heat just fine! :wink: Blue hula
  15. MAC's spokestoken...

    Oh my ... I'm now in even more illustrious company :wink: :) I believe you used a very similar analogy with Kalk ... You did hit a nerve ... there is a lot of discussion about the behaviour and attitudes of those of shall we say a more critical bent ... and IMO, it reflects an erroneous view...
  16. MAC's spokestoken...

    Well that's pretty thin ... If John didn't have the information he needed, why was he making claims about the Batasan sanctuary (which you asked him about incidentally) ? What detail ? Question 1: How big is the marine sanctuary at Batasan? Question 2: Were there or were there not resource...
  17. MAC's spokestoken...

    Mike ... that's the whole paragraph. How was I supposed to take it? What "context" am I missing? The last sentence seems pretty clear. I wasn't offering an explanation. I was pointing out that John's behaviour was pretty poor and that there was a reasonable expectation of an answer since HE...
  18. Moved posts from the Guidelines Thread

    Mary's right ... MAC has the PR game beyond this board sowed up ... David and Goliath ... they're the big guns ... Reefcheck, UNEP-WCMC, Packard, AZA ... lot's of partners that lend credence to the fallacy Blue hula
  19. Proposed Forum Guidelines & Hopes for MAC Representation

    Sorry, I missed the post where Mary said that MAC is too busy accomplishing great things to respond to the hoi polloi ... They do have a communications coordinator ... why don't they respond? They also indicated on one of their reef talks that they wanted to establish a Q/A link ...
  20. MAC's spokestoken...

    How flattering Mike - I single handedly hounded John off the board? Time line is as follows: I started lurking on this board when Mary was moderator. I lurked through the period when John was moderator - and frankly was somewhat disturbed to see the level of lobbying that occured in a role...

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