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Old 11-06-2008, 07:28 PM
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The gobi experiment is going better than expected, I have two pairs spawning but I am not yet trying to raise the fry.
Today I thought one of them was dying because I fed the tank live worms and one gobi would not eat. She would just sit under a rock and let the worms bounce off her head which is a sure sign of a dead fish in the morning. After a while of me annoying her she decided to turn the other way and I could see how pregnant she was. I diden't even know this pair was spawning.
She looks extreamly fat and should lay some eggs very soon.
(or die depending on how she delivers) Some fish have a hard time in a tank especially when they get chased.
This is the best picture I could get because she was in the rocks and I moved a rock to get the picture.
You can see the belly though.

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Old 11-07-2008, 01:18 AM
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Keep us posted on her progress.

PS. Did you hear that vortex went out of buisness. I was wondering if that was true.
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Old 11-07-2008, 07:35 AM
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I think they went out a while ago but you can still get diatom filters. Maybe someone else took them over
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:20 AM
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If your tank was started in June of 1970, I was born in June of 1970 so that tank is as old as me! wow! that just boggles the mind...how does it feel to be a reef keeping pioneer? I just want to say congrats to you and your tank for being there for over 38 years, that is quite an accomplishment indeed. How did you do it back in the early days when there was nothing in regards to keeping salties and reefs available to hobbyist other than undergravel filters, heaters, and a tank? you must have seen it all, invented whatever you needed and did it in the dark so to speak...congrats once again!
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They had HOB filter in 1970 also. Im sure paul remembers, The ones with the three canes that you would fill with floss and carbon, be impoosible to start flow, and would sometimes go on fire(man I feel old). But they did crank out some GHP.
I actually used one unyil about 6 years ago, on my cichlid tank. Tank was never as healthy as it was with that filter.

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If your tank was started in June of 1970, I was born in June of 1970 so that tank is as old as me! wow! that just boggles the mind...how does it feel to be a reef keeping pioneer? I just want to say congrats to you and your tank for being there for over 38 years, that is quite an accomplishment indeed. How did you do it back in the early days when there was nothing in regards to keeping salties and reefs available to hobbyist other than undergravel filters, heaters, and a tank? you must have seen it all, invented whatever you needed and did it in the dark so to speak...congrats once again!
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:25 PM
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If your tank was started in June of 1970, I was born in June of 1970 so that tank is as old as me!
Actually, it was started in 1971 which was the year I returned home from the Army.

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How did you do it back in the early days when there was nothing in regards to keeping salties and reefs available to hobbyist other than undergravel filters, heaters, and a tank?
There is an article on here somewhere that I wrote about 15 years ago that tells the history of the hobby and how I started this tank.
It still uses an UG filter only now it is run in reverse and very slow. I lifted the plates twice in those years to see what it looked like under there. The first time was 25 years after the tank was started.
There was no information or so called "Experts". You put fish in, tried something and if it died, you bought a different fish and tried something else.
The tank evolved into what it is today. It looked much better two years ago, before the last accident but now I am happy with my gobi experiment. It was never meant to be a thing of beauty, only a hobby and learning experience which is an extension of my SCUBA hobby.
Have a great day.
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Old 12-03-2008, 08:42 AM
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I like my new aquascaping which I did last month. I removed the rock and built some thin cement PVC rock to act as pilons to support the massive rock work.
There is very few places where the large rocks touch the substrait. I did this not for the same reason that it would be done with a DSB because I don't have a DSB but a RUGF. I use dolomite gravel so there would be circulation even with rocks on the gravel but I wanted it very open. It always starts out kind of like this but eventually after a few years, the open spaces kind of collapse and the smaller rocks fill in the cavities. With this new system of the pylons, this will not happen as much.
I can also blow any detritus out from behind the structure although this tank generates very little detritus.
I am surprised no one here pointed out that the rocks look like they are covered in cyano. They are not, but in the pictures, especially with no actinic lights, they look like that. There is a very short red algae covering mostly the artificial cement rocks. This algae is the same algae that covers everything in the Long Island Sound wher I collect most of my water and some rocks.
This picture of the rock anemone was taken right after I collected it in a tide pool in the Sound. I added this anemone just as you see it, rock and all. The red algae on it is exactly what sometimes grows in my tank and I am sure it generated from there.
It does not last the entire year but the fish eat it and it looks kind of natural.




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Old 01-12-2009, 04:34 PM
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I just picked up another blue stripped pipefish, I believe it's another female. It is not hard to tell but this one is only about an inch and a half long and being a pipefish, very skinny. They never stop swimming either so it was even harder to tell. I bought it right out of his shipping container even before it went into the LFS tanks which is the way I prefer to buy fish. There were three of them in there and the other two looked like males. I have a breeding pair so I can't introduce another male and my eyes are not like they were 20 years ago so it is hard to tell the difference at that size especially.
I am very happy with the way the tank has evolved in the last few years which is very different from it has usually been. It is full of very small fish as opposed to tangs, angels etc.
There is still a Hippo, Bangai Cardinal and a couple of fire clowns but all the rest of them are gobies, bleenies or pipefish.
I have always wanted a tank full of fifty small fish instead of 10 larger fish. I go for the unusual and some of my fish I have no idea what they are as I never say them before.
The pipes, Bangai's and 4 gobies are spawning. Another pair of tiny clown gobies appear to want to spawn but they look to be a little stupid or maybe naive so I may have to introduce a little fish porn
I think they will get the hang of it.
I don't raise them anymore as I used to because they need more attention than I can give them right now and you are not going to find baby bluestripe pipefish in a 6' long tank. The babies are like new born brine shrimp only skinnier.
I removed a lot of rocks and it is much more "airy" looking. All the rockwork is raised and very open. For some reason there was no green algae growing at all for a few months but now I see some green on the gravel. I can't wait to see what the next phase will be.
I also built a new live blackworm keeper because as I have been saying for 50 years, if you want your fish to be as healthy as they can be and spawn, they really should have live blackworms.
Not bloodworms. A few worms a day is all it takes.
I have induced many fish to spawn with this method including gobies, bangai cardinals, blue devils and clowns.
Unfortunately pipefish and seahorses don't eat them.

Tending some eggs

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Old 01-12-2009, 05:39 PM
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So cool!

Paul If you would like to have some frags to start re-stocking corals hit me with a PM. I have plenty of mushrooms and zoa's, torch frogspawn ect, if you want to add some easy stuff. I also have some sps/ lps if you are into that. Would be an honor just to see a few of my frags in your tank.

Im in Wading River.
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Old 01-12-2009, 07:03 PM
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Arati, I would love some but I would want to pay for them.
I am in new Hyde park.
I have a few mushrooms now and they are doing great.
PM me your number.
Thanks, I really appreciate it.
Paul
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