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Daceman89 said:
I wouldn't :lol:
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I wouldn't :lol:
We all started as NEWB's one time or another ,And all made the same mistakes.
I think if some1 give out the worng info .Then The pros should direct the NEwbs in the right path ,Not bring them down.This hobby is suppost to be Relaxing ,Fun,Exciting and Meeting great ppl one this site.
I have met lot of nice ppl From Manhattan Reefs and think that all of you guys are great Hobbiest,Lets help these Newbs become more like you/us ,and not make them feel like they have no clue what the are doing.So they said something worng.It is something that could be corrected ..
I Too have alot to learn about the hobby>everyday bring on new experiance
Even the Smartest man or women in the world, Learns something new everyday.
I think if some1 give out the worng info .Then The pros should direct the NEwbs in the right path ,Not bring them down.This hobby is suppost to be Relaxing ,Fun,Exciting and Meeting great ppl one this site.
I have met lot of nice ppl From Manhattan Reefs and think that all of you guys are great Hobbiest,Lets help these Newbs become more like you/us ,and not make them feel like they have no clue what the are doing.So they said something worng.It is something that could be corrected ..
I Too have alot to learn about the hobby>everyday bring on new experiance
Even the Smartest man or women in the world, Learns something new everyday.
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It is interesting to read this thread and to see exactly why this board is so different than any other of it's kind.
I have to say I have read every word from the start (Herman you instigator and agree with everyone. BUT, the one common tone here is poignantly addressed by Jhale and the need for a forum for our newest and most inexperienced members. I purposefully don't call them newbies because I think that, in and of itself, is condescending. I would go so far as offering to exclusively moderate that section as I feel like I have made just about every mistake in the book (so it seems) and have killed my share of livestock in the process (Sorry T1 and T2 - T3 still alive and kicking 3 yrs later) - Jackson, I feel ya bro.
Everyone has tried that nose grind down the railing and busted thier tail a thousand times or crazy glued some body part to something - bottom line, reefing is different!!!
We, as a society are trying to advance the life of the reefs by propogating and sharing locally. The body can repair itself, but the fish can not. One of the main reasons why I joined this site was because of a group of concientiuos Manhattan reefers taught me the beauty of understanding the reef - it's complexity, fragility and it's grandeur (you guys know who you are) and is the reason why I will continue to offer my experience to those who can look at it as exactly that - an experience.
If I can venture into a little obscurity here - wisdom and knowledge are tricky - Wisdom is the sum of learning through the ages; knowledge is the process of getting there - "episteme" - most of which are bound to time and place (and sometimes a society). Since we are a society here, let's keep that in focus and continue to reef, discuss reefing and have fun doing so.
I still consider myself a new reefer as I have only been doing this for 4 years - 4 years - can you believe it>>>>>>>> there are guys on this board who have been reefing for 20 years. Keep in mind the above statements -
That being said, let's not lose focus of why we are here - to advance concientious reefkeeping, to make friends and have fun in doing so (and drinking beer).
Reef On!!!
House
I have to say I have read every word from the start (Herman you instigator
and agree with everyone. BUT, the one common tone here is poignantly addressed by Jhale and the need for a forum for our newest and most inexperienced members. I purposefully don't call them newbies because I think that, in and of itself, is condescending. I would go so far as offering to exclusively moderate that section as I feel like I have made just about every mistake in the book (so it seems) and have killed my share of livestock in the process (Sorry T1 and T2 - T3 still alive and kicking 3 yrs later) - Jackson, I feel ya bro.Everyone has tried that nose grind down the railing and busted thier tail a thousand times or crazy glued some body part to something - bottom line, reefing is different!!!
We, as a society are trying to advance the life of the reefs by propogating and sharing locally. The body can repair itself, but the fish can not. One of the main reasons why I joined this site was because of a group of concientiuos Manhattan reefers taught me the beauty of understanding the reef - it's complexity, fragility and it's grandeur (you guys know who you are) and is the reason why I will continue to offer my experience to those who can look at it as exactly that - an experience.
If I can venture into a little obscurity here - wisdom and knowledge are tricky - Wisdom is the sum of learning through the ages; knowledge is the process of getting there - "episteme" - most of which are bound to time and place (and sometimes a society). Since we are a society here, let's keep that in focus and continue to reef, discuss reefing and have fun doing so.
I still consider myself a new reefer as I have only been doing this for 4 years - 4 years - can you believe it>>>>>>>> there are guys on this board who have been reefing for 20 years. Keep in mind the above statements -
That being said, let's not lose focus of why we are here - to advance concientious reefkeeping, to make friends and have fun in doing so (and drinking beer).
Reef On!!!
House
Yep, I am at the 15 year mark now O wise Master Jedi No Nothing Kanobi . This post is becoming absurd and boring. I feel like we are all on Opfra right now. Any more and I will have to get a new box of tissues. Lets move on. You people need to drink more....
Kasei
. This post is becoming absurd and boring. I feel like we are all on Opfra right now. Any more and I will have to get a new box of tissues. Lets move on. You people need to drink more....Kasei
House of Laughter said:It is interesting to read this thread and to see exactly why this board is so different than any other of it's kind.
I have to say I have read every word from the start (Herman you instigator
Everyone has tried that nose grind down the railing and busted thier tail a thousand times or crazy glued some body part to something - bottom line, reefing is different!!!
We, as a society are trying to advance the life of the reefs by propogating and sharing locally. The body can repair itself, but the fish can not. One of the main reasons why I joined this site was because of a group of concientiuos Manhattan reefers taught me the beauty of understanding the reef - it's complexity, fragility and it's grandeur (you guys know who you are) and is the reason why I will continue to offer my experience to those who can look at it as exactly that - an experience.
If I can venture into a little obscurity here - wisdom and knowledge are tricky - Wisdom is the sum of learning through the ages; knowledge is the process of getting there - "episteme" - most of which are bound to time and place (and sometimes a society). Since we are a society here, let's keep that in focus and continue to reef, discuss reefing and have fun doing so.
I still consider myself a new reefer as I have only been doing this for 4 years - 4 years - can you believe it>>>>>>>> there are guys on this board who have been reefing for 20 years. Keep in mind the above statements -
That being said, let's not lose focus of why we are here - to advance concientious reefkeeping, to make friends and have fun in doing so (and drinking beer).
Reef On!!!
House
bravo!
Dudes, I have connections...I can get us on the Jerry Springer show!
We can settle this once & for all.
I say to each his/her own! What is the point if you had a 1000g tank & did not know how to keep the fish alive vs 55g & kept the fish alive & well fed. I laughed to myself when I saw a thread of a gorgeous 210g reef tank that had a few tangs in there. Why? Cause this reefer had plenty of rocks in there & SPS growth like it was no ones biz. It looked awesome, but it was barely enough roof for the fish to swim. Yet, no one dared say anything about that. Right away my mind wondered off to the poor soul who was attacked for having a yellow tang in a 55g tank. Bunch o hypocrites!
Take a step back & look at the reality of things. We all want to justify our actions & are in this hobby for pure self gratification & not for the sake of the animals we profess to care for so much. If the latter were the case, then we would not be in possession of these creatures, but rather leave them where they belong. They don't belong in our living rooms taking chances on power outages, calcium reactor mishaps, heaters that go astray & the likes.
My name is FastUno & I am a self-gratifying reef whore! There I have said it!!!!
Now let the healing begin.
We can settle this once & for all.
I say to each his/her own! What is the point if you had a 1000g tank & did not know how to keep the fish alive vs 55g & kept the fish alive & well fed. I laughed to myself when I saw a thread of a gorgeous 210g reef tank that had a few tangs in there. Why? Cause this reefer had plenty of rocks in there & SPS growth like it was no ones biz. It looked awesome, but it was barely enough roof for the fish to swim. Yet, no one dared say anything about that. Right away my mind wondered off to the poor soul who was attacked for having a yellow tang in a 55g tank. Bunch o hypocrites!
Take a step back & look at the reality of things. We all want to justify our actions & are in this hobby for pure self gratification & not for the sake of the animals we profess to care for so much. If the latter were the case, then we would not be in possession of these creatures, but rather leave them where they belong. They don't belong in our living rooms taking chances on power outages, calcium reactor mishaps, heaters that go astray & the likes.
My name is FastUno & I am a self-gratifying reef whore! There I have said it!!!!
Now let the healing begin.
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FastUno said:
LMAO!!! That speaks for itself.....
bad coffee
Inept at life.
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I wouldn't pass if they did. drinks and shots with a hottie named livia. her ex feance showed up. talk about a c block.
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Wow, if i wanted this much drama I would spend more time talking to my wife and my two baby girls! (that was sarcasm btw...)
My .02 cents as someone that is still new to reefin (~ 2ys) but likes to think that he isnt a complete idiot...
1. Not aftraid to give my advice but try to make clear it is based upon what i read or personal experience. Giving back is what this site is all about.
2. Not afraid to LISTEN... I cant tell you how appreciative I am to folks like House, Herman, etc that have given me great advice that I have learned from, and more important, TRY TO PUT TO PRACTICE. I still remember visiting House at his office to pick up a big frozen slab of cyclopeeze...At the time I really didnt know what it was, but based upon the excitement from the forum, I knew I needed to have it.
Anyway, I certainly dont post as much as others on this forum, but I do try to listen and when I think I can give some advice that could be helpful, I post. If someone disagrees with my advice, I am not offended if they vocalize it. After all, most of us are here to learn and share to make their little piece of the ocean better.
Alright, going back into my hole.
My .02 cents as someone that is still new to reefin (~ 2ys) but likes to think that he isnt a complete idiot...
1. Not aftraid to give my advice but try to make clear it is based upon what i read or personal experience. Giving back is what this site is all about.
2. Not afraid to LISTEN... I cant tell you how appreciative I am to folks like House, Herman, etc that have given me great advice that I have learned from, and more important, TRY TO PUT TO PRACTICE. I still remember visiting House at his office to pick up a big frozen slab of cyclopeeze...At the time I really didnt know what it was, but based upon the excitement from the forum, I knew I needed to have it.
Anyway, I certainly dont post as much as others on this forum, but I do try to listen and when I think I can give some advice that could be helpful, I post. If someone disagrees with my advice, I am not offended if they vocalize it. After all, most of us are here to learn and share to make their little piece of the ocean better.
Alright, going back into my hole.
Not much to say except that I have not posted in over 1 year due to the sarcasms of some one that appears to have a vast knowledge of the hobby. While I feel I was vindicated in a battled of wits when it had nothing to do with reefing, I was not only surprised that this person who happens to be a long time MR was so rude and scolding, but he also did not offer any advise. I have had my tank for 5 yrs now and still have many problems, but on the same token there are very unorthodox methods that I have used that seem to work very well and have been successful for those 5 yrs. I would not add those theories to MR as there would more likely be a wall of sarcasms thrown on me. Anyway, good luck to those of you trying to restore some of the ground rules or reasons for starting MR in the first place. I look forward to continuing the REEF education course, evening classes, you know for those of us with other things to do, i.e. work, family, friends, and overall reason for evolution of life quality.
?The dreams of youths are the regrets of maturity?
?The dreams of youths are the regrets of maturity?
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