Can of worms

[herman]

First of all - I GIVE THE BEST ADVICE - (drink more beer) Anything else is secondary. Now that we got that out of the way on to more serious things.

Names will not be mentioned IN A NEGATIVE WAY in this thread for a good reason and it would be appreciated if it were to stay that way. If for some reason you feel singled out or personally attacked, there is a good reason that you feel that way and you are probably right!

I decided to write this because lately MR is experiencing substatial growth and what used to be a small comunity of people knowing each other has become more annonymous. I have also noticed that there is quite a bit more aggression and sarcasm. I for one am guilty of aggression and definitely sarcasm. I for one have been more sarcastic and mean and less and less helpful.

The reason for this is quite simply, the addition of bullcrap - When some guy with a crappy tank who has absolutely no experience gives advice to a new guy with a legitimate question, and inevitably screws him, it pisses me off.

It will start off with corrections and then lead to remarks to shut the F*&^ up and progresses from there. I do totally understand your newbie enthusiasm and your need to share your newly aquired yet basic knowledge like the boy who just discovered masturbation.

But do understand that people come to this board believing that they will get solutions for their problems from people that know what they are talking about. And if you decide to share your newly aquired yet basic knowledge, it may be the wrong advice!!

Please know one thing. This hobby just happens to be one of the most complex hobbies out there. I know this because I have been in it long enough and my family has kept saltwater tanks from before I was born. Even with all that exposure I dont know all the answers to all the problems that people post . When I dont know the answer to some question I just dont say anything and watch the thread in the hopes that I can learn something. But what happens to the thread that I am hoping to learn from. Some idiot, with their newly aquired yet basic knowledge, decides to masturbate all over the thread.

What I really like about MR is that the various forums are not segregated between experts and beginners like on RC and that truly knowledgeable people still read all the posts. But you people with your newly aquired yet very basic knowledge are causing some of us to stay away more and more. It becomes very tedious and boring with you guys around. Why cant you just shut up for once, stop draping the site with your newly aquired yet very basic knowledge, and try to read the thread and learn something to make your tank spectacular!

Long story short! Stop being such a jerkoff!!

 

[marrone]

I think this was address in a thread just recently dealing with Calireef(Pierce) and his remarks. I know I posted some things and I think Dean did also. You can't make everyone happy and sometimes people need to told just how it is and if they don't like it well to bad.

 

[herman]

I think this was address in a thread just recently dealing with Calireef(Pierce) and his remarks. I know I posted some things and I think Dean did also. You can't make everyone happy and sometimes people need to told just how it is and if they don't like it well to bad.

Now that names are out, I think I speak for Pierce. If you or dean or Pierce have advice, it legit dude. I happen to view your opinions and advice as expertise!!

This thread is not regarding any particular thread.

 

[DRZL]

Yeah Herman!

Let it out, better out than in bro

I mean we all started as newbs but personally I didnt give ANY info until I head read enough advanced aquarist articles to make anyone nauseous. Heck! I even learned basic chem while I was at it!

I just encourage anyone whose a newb to learn as much as u can in those first few months before you starting handing it out, its not that people have a superiority complex but its not like u should just post becuase of an inferiority complex either. Most of all, this is a discussion board and you WILL be asked to explain yourself in the spirit of discussing so don't get your panties in a bunch

H-dog

 

[nanoreefer22]

Well said Herman!!!!!

 

[DRZL]

can anyone link me the thread that we are NOT talking about

im a loser and cant find it

 

[nanoreefer22]

can anyone link me the thread that we are NOT talking about

im a loser and cant find it

LMAO!!! I guess my slowness rubbed off on you .

 

[herman]

can anyone link me the thread that we are NOT talking about

im a loser and cant find it

there are a couple of them. Actually lots.

 

[DRZL]

BTW
Herman can I stick a naso tang in my nano?



pppplllleaasseee....its really smalll...say 5 inches

 

[herman]

BTW
Herman can I stick a naso tang in my nano?



pppplllleaasseee....its really smalll...say 5 inches

I recommend a Pico Tank for that, but only if you perform waterchanges. Dont forget the yellow tang to eat the algae. Also you need a closed loop system powered by triple 3,500-hp MTU 16V396TB94 diesel engines matched with triple KaMeWa waterjets.

 

[DevIouS]

http://www.manhattanreefs.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6768

Not sure if my comments are included with the other knuckle-heads, that post for the sake of posting........but I have something to add.
I don't think my advice was anything else but common sense on that post.
Nothing complex about it.
My remarks to Cali wasn't needed.
If there is something I don't know...of course I wont post advice on it.
I do see other posts that are made with no knowledge...but I ignore them & post right after it & still try to guide the person to the right track. I definitely still have a lot to learn....but I did do my homework..
Since being a member (almost a year), I found this place to be extremely helpful & most of all friendly. Never had an issue with anyone & have met alot of cool people.
Being sarcastic in a funny way is cool....but when it's a majority of a persons post.....it isn't needed.
I'm sarcastic as well....it's in my nature.
Alot of new members are joining & the same questions are going to be asked.
It's a public forum that has always been to be cool. No need to make it look bad.
I just don't see the need to be sarcastic or look down on others for not knowing as much as the next guy.
Everyone has their own experiences & advice & some will not agree. It's life....
I also feel if some-one has a problem with certain remarks or posts.....call out the person.
That's just me though.

I apologize if I made MR look bad.


MR still rules.:smokin:

~I'll drink to that~

 

[inkblue]

.02 centavoS

pHiL... iN my book, you cooL and honeStly, whoEver doesnt think so, probabLy has never been honored with the pLeasure of your frndshiP and truSt

 

[DevIouS]

awwwww....INK....

:grouphug:

:lol:

 

[inkblue]

...dude itS LUNCH and not a date :lol: :bigeyes2: :yo:

 

[DevIouS]

Lmao!

 

[herman]

Discussions are a good thing! Thats what these forums are all about. Its good to see varying opinions of different people.

The thing I am pissed about are other kinds of advice.

Good thing we have Ink here. Our ambassador

 

[inkblue]

in herMan'S case, yoU gotta meet hiM coZ he is a reaLLy compLex guy and he has a LOT of hiStory behind hiM and he'S reaLLy cooL

i tHink my pHilosophy here is, meet peoPLe first, then judge. everyOne i'Ve met s0 far exceedS my expectation of theM based on theiR postS. everyOne's been great and niCe and FULL of wise advice (hey it rhymEs... say taht ten timEs) :bigeyes2:

i hoPe we'LL hasH thiS out like men and move on to... BUYING! :lol: :shocked1:

 

[Tonyscoots84]

im pretty sure im involved in this as much as the other nuckleheads. i understand some of you consider me a newb. hey and thats ok. but i just dont like the responses given by certain people. it would be better off not said. just correct the person in an appropiate mannor. thats all. again im very sorry if i made this site look bad in any way. did not mean to just trying to help out fellow MR members.


Dont get me wrong im not a bad guy nore is anyone else on this site. Deanos, cali, Ink, herman, deep and everyone else are all great guys and no there stuff. as herman said what they say should be considered expertise. how about we help out both sides in a formal way. so if any reason anyone feels that i should leave the site, i will.

again my sincere apologies for causing or aiding in the "Can of worms"
this was not meant to happen.

lets just be new york's best reefers site for manhattan. what do you guys say.

 

[herman]

lets just be new york's best reefers site for manhattan. what do you guys say.

Dude, it takes a lot of guts to come out and say what you just did. I respect that!!!! There is no reason why anyone should leave dude!

 

[Tonyscoots84]

also if anyone wants to rec. me some books to go buy and read i will do that as well..

herman were all great people here. we take time out of our busy days or lives to help out other people most which we dont no. it doesnt get any better than that.

thanks for that herman.