~How many people Quaratine and don't lie~

[thirty6]

Every new fish goes thru .4-.5ppm cupramine for 3-4 weeks. + 1-2 one hr formalin dip.

even fish from DD(true personifer+achilles) goes thru the same QT regimen.

i have an achilles, pbt, and blue tang without ich. arguably the top 3 ich magnets. also a few angels.

So if i read correctly, you do 3 4 weeks of qt with cupramine, after that time frame an hour formalin dip? Then right into dt? Anything else before display tank? You listed some fish very prone to ich. Is cupramine as risky as copper treatments? I ask because ive never qt'd and never had to medicate, but its been a long time since I've had a tank. (not including effete snow storm in Oct that wiped out new tank)

 

[mbg75]

So if i read correctly, you do 3 4 weeks of qt with cupramine, after that time frame an hour formalin dip? Then right into dt? Anything else before display tank? You listed some fish very prone to ich. Is cupramine as risky as copper treatments? I ask because ive never qt'd and never had to medicate, but its been a long time since I've had a tank. (not including effete snow storm in Oct that wiped out new tank)

Cupramine is one of the more stable copper meds. Yes, 3-4 weeks at .5 will be good.


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[geaux xman]

So if i read correctly, you do 3 4 weeks of qt with cupramine, after that time frame an hour formalin dip? Then right into dt? Anything else before display tank? You listed some fish very prone to ich. Is cupramine as risky as copper treatments? I ask because ive never qt'd and never had to medicate, but its been a long time since I've had a tank. (not including effete snow storm in Oct that wiped out new tank)

I forgot to mention, I give all new fish 2-3 prazi treatments too.


yeah after my cupramine treatment, i transfer the fish into a 4gal bucket w/4ml 37% formalin(+2 airstones) for an hour. then i transfer the fish into my DT. Sometimes into an acclimation box, sometimes directly in. Occasionally, I'll give a fish a formalin dip mid copper treatment too.

If a several week QT isnt feasable, I would highly suggest a 1hr formalin dip then transfer the fish into the DT. The formalin dip will help eradicate many of the external nasties on the fish. I also think its more gentle on a fish than a FW dip. I've given about 10 angels and tangs 1hr formalin dips without issue. They swim around like nothing is going on. A lot of fish cant even make it thru a 10 min FW dip. JMO.

Heres some good reading about formalin.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/formalinart.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/formalinfaqs.htm
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/vm061

Heres my tank in January.
http://youtu.be/-9ApekHYeGw

I added a false personifer and the achilles in Feb.

 

[junior ibanez]

Wish I did

 

[rhdoug]

The only fish I ever QT'd was the only fish I ever had problems with ick. A pbt -- he would be fine in a little 10 g qt tank, clear up with no ick. Even ate from my hand. As soon as he went into the display he would break out with ick -- both times! I took him back to the LFS eventually.

 

[marrone]

I forgot to mention, I give all new fish 2-3 prazi treatments too.


yeah after my cupramine treatment, i transfer the fish into a 4gal bucket w/4ml 37% formalin(+2 airstones) for an hour. then i transfer the fish into my DT. Sometimes into an acclimation box, sometimes directly in. Occasionally, I'll give a fish a formalin dip mid copper treatment too.

If a several week QT isnt feasable, I would highly suggest a 1hr formalin dip then transfer the fish into the DT. The formalin dip will help eradicate many of the external nasties on the fish. I also think its more gentle on a fish than a FW dip. I've given about 10 angels and tangs 1hr formalin dips without issue. They swim around like nothing is going on. A lot of fish cant even make it thru a 10 min FW dip. JMO.

Heres some good reading about formalin.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/formalinart.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/formalinfaqs.htm
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/vm061

Heres my tank in January.
http://youtu.be/-9ApekHYeGw

I added a false personifer and the achilles in Feb.

Actually a formalin dip is much hardier on a fish than a fresh water dip or bath. Most fish can't take a formalin bath of 20 minutes let alone a bath of 1 hour. You also need to watch them careful, as formalin will burn at their gills and such. It usually takes multiple dips and baths, over a number of days, for it to work. Finally, you need to be careful using it, gloves and eye protection should be used when treating fish with it, and everything disposed of when done. Before you place any fish back into your MT or QT you should give the fish a rinse or bath in fresh/saltwater water, so you don't get any of the formalin into the tank.

 

[cheech13]

The only fish I ever QT'd was the only fish I ever had problems with ick. A pbt -- he would be fine in a little 10 g qt tank, clear up with no ick. Even ate from my hand. As soon as he went into the display he would break out with ick -- both times! I took him back to the LFS eventually.

I dont get it. Why does everything have to be so controversial. Qt or not, socks or sockless, water changes or not, ich meds or FW dips, deep sand bed 4,6,8 inches, 10x water flow or 100, wow. Why cant we all just get along. BTW I no there's more but can't think of anymore right now.

 

[thirty6]

thanks for replying.

for the members here that qt corals, do you have the same light on qt tank as you do display tank? do you qt for same amount of time as fish?

I forgot to mention, I give all new fish 2-3 prazi treatments too.


yeah after my cupramine treatment, i transfer the fish into a 4gal bucket w/4ml 37% formalin(+2 airstones) for an hour. then i transfer the fish into my DT. Sometimes into an acclimation box, sometimes directly in. Occasionally, I'll give a fish a formalin dip mid copper treatment too.

If a several week QT isnt feasable, I would highly suggest a 1hr formalin dip then transfer the fish into the DT. The formalin dip will help eradicate many of the external nasties on the fish. I also think its more gentle on a fish than a FW dip. I've given about 10 angels and tangs 1hr formalin dips without issue. They swim around like nothing is going on. A lot of fish cant even make it thru a 10 min FW dip. JMO.

Heres some good reading about formalin.
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/formalinart.htm
http://www.wetwebmedia.com/formalinfaqs.htm
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/vm061

Heres my tank in January.
http://youtu.be/-9ApekHYeGw

I added a false personifer and the achilles in Feb.

 

[jedimaster1138]

Does anyone use Methylene Blue solutions as a dip for fish? Fenner's book seems to be a big fan of those. I have a bottle but haven't used it yet. Formalin kinda worries me personally.

For coral I dip 10 minutes in either Revive or CoralRX then a rinse bath, then right in the DT, though onto the sand bed, under cover, till I figure out where they will go long term and also to acclimate them to major light.

 

[albano]

I dont get it. Why does everything have to be so controversial. Qt or not, socks or sockless, water changes or not, ich meds or FW dips, deep sand bed 4,6,8 inches, 10x water flow or 100, wow.
Why cant we all just get along. BTW I no there's more but can't think of anymore right now.
"Only God Can Judge Me"

are you judging us?

 

[marrone]

Does anyone use Methylene Blue solutions as a dip for fish? Fenner's book seems to be a big fan of those. I have a bottle but haven't used it yet. Formalin kinda worries me personally.

You shouldn't dip a fish in any medication unless you know that is has something to being with. Also, if the fish does have something you need to treat it with the correct medication as otherwise it will have no effect on the diseases/parasite.

 

[mbg75]

The only fish I ever QT'd was the only fish I ever had problems with ick. A pbt -- he would be fine in a little 10 g qt tank, clear up with no ick. Even ate from my hand. As soon as he went into the display he would break out with ick -- both times! I took him back to the LFS eventually.

That's because the ich is in your display tank.
Pbt and others in the Acanthuridae family are very prone to ich.

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[cheech13]

are you judging us?

Lol God does that. Lol

 

[geaux xman]

Actually a formalin dip is much hardier on a fish than a fresh water dip or bath. Most fish can't take a formalin bath of 20 minutes let alone a bath of 1 hour. You also need to watch them careful, as formalin will burn at their gills and such. It usually takes multiple dips and baths, over a number of days, for it to work. Finally, you need to be careful using it, gloves and eye protection should be used when treating fish with it, and everything disposed of when done. Before you place any fish back into your MT or QT you should give the fish a rinse or bath in fresh/saltwater water, so you don't get any of the formalin into the tank.

Well I dont know as much about wrasses, anthias, etc, but I have personally formalin dip 10+ angels and tangs(PBT/Achilles/BlueHippo) for 50-60mins each without issue. The formalin dips I perform is in addition to 3-4 weeks of .5ppm cupramine. Its just an extra precautionary step.

I'm just sharing my experience with QT-ing fish and what works well for me.

Sorry for the poor quality video, but heres a recent vid of my PBT/Achilles/BlueTang. I've been soaking a lot of Zoecon/Selecon so my tank water is cloudy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=einW_-C16vU&feature=youtu.be&hd=1

 

[jdmhatch0619]

yes 2-3i weeks, make sure feeding is good, no medical issues swims good and then into the 75 i have a custom 15 gallon a freind made over my computer and thats the tank i use

 

[chinatown]

nope, too lazy.

 

[cameraman]

yes, i put them in my refugium before they go to the main tank

 

[albano]

yes, i put them in my refugium before they go to the main tank

That's not QT, when refugium is connected to DT! If they're sick, the main tank can be 'infected'

 

[jdino]

You will learn one day like I did. Sooner or later it will happen. I lost my whole tank to Velvet. It killed over 20 fish in a week and a half. I got it after putting in a new sailfin tang. Problem is it hits so fast you can't react fast enough by the time you see it your in trouble. Qt qt qt

 

[mbg75]

Part of the problem is that if there is even a little copper in the tank where u bought the fish, it will mask the ich or velvet until the fish is in a copper free tank..



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