RTN Everything is almost Dead

[ducati335i]

When it's all said and done I have no problem helping out w giving u an Sps frag for free.. If everyone does that it won't be Too bad..
This hobby does suck in this aspect.. If I ever go through too much of that it's all Lps and softies for me! (which i prefer anyway!)

 

[PHILYD1]

The only way to fix it is to ride it out and take your lumps. At this point, I would put some poly pads in just to see what they reveal and eliminate all the other obvious causes. I'm not sure how many colonies you have left, but you could try dipping them which may be more stressful than useful. It doesn't appear to be a water quality issue ( unless the poly pads show something) , so I don't know what a large WC will accomplish other than potential stress. You can also frag still healthy colonies and hope some them survive.

It SUCKS bigtime, but there are no easy fixes here and the more things you change at once the further you get from figuring out what is helping or hurting the situation. I just went through this not too long ago, though not to this degree, so I understand completely. All I can offer is that if you keep things stable, some corals will survive and the situation will turn itself around. Good luck and keep us posted.

Thanks for your help I think your right I gotta ride it out and see what happens, Just sucks big time

 

[ToManyFrags]

Philyd I will help you out and hit you up with sps you are more then welcome to.

I have to ask you soemthing, do you have green film with bubbles on the sps that is dying off

 

[Mattl22]

One thing I've done in past if I had a setback and my sps bleach recede etc.. but I think I've gotten my parameters stable is put a healthy frag from a buddies tank in ur tank if the new frag does well then u must have had some kind of swing or something if it rtn then the search continues!

 

[prattreef]

One thing I've done in past if I had a setback and my sps bleach recede etc.. but I think I've gotten my parameters stable is put a healthy frag from a buddies tank in ur tank if the new frag does well then u must have had some kind of swing or something if it rtn then the search continues!

While agree with the sentiment, I would not put any frags in anyone else's tank. If it is bacterial in nature, no need to risk spreading it to your buddies.

Oh and as others above have offered up, I'm happy to donate some frags to get you up and running again when things calm down--- and they will.

 

[Mattl22]

Agree I was saying put a healthy frag a cheap one in the tank that's having the rtn too see if the newly introduced frag rtn or if it does fine! If it does fine u know at least u can stop going crazy searching for reason wait out the damage start over!

 

[ToManyFrags]

I could not agree more with Pratt,

I had that happen to me and the result was a dead tank, until I dosed the tank with red slime remover, was I over this infection.

You can dip the coral is revive I have heard that is supposed to kill the bacterial infection on the sps, if that is the case.

Very good point Pratt

 

[PHILYD1]

Agree I was saying put a healthy frag a cheap one in the tank that's having the rtn too see if the newly introduced frag rtn or if it does fine! If it does fine u know at least u can stop going crazy searching for reason wait out the damage start over!

Yea I think you may be right, i belive that what ever happened here happened a few weeks ago and this is the after affects, but if it is a virus then its gonna have to run its course..

 

[PHILYD1]

I think this would be a perfect time for an upgrade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Yikes:
300g DD here I come!!!!!!!!!:biglaugh:

 

[duke62]

you said you dont run carbon so this may be a great time to use it.

 

[PHILYD1]

you said you dont run carbon so this may be a great time to use it.

Duke your Prob. right but trying to keep it very basic so i can pin point whats going on, over last few weeks made a few to many changes to my system which makes it 10x harder to pin point what happened :Up_to_som:banghead::banghead:

 

[Jaftica]

I think this would be a perfect time for an upgrade!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:Yikes:
300g DD here I come!!!!!!!!!:biglaugh:

Upgrade!!!

 

[duke62]

but what im getting at is there may be toxins in the tank killing your sps. carbon MAY combat the toxins.youir losing corals now might as well do it and see if it helps. carbon is very simple to use. i see more gain from trying then loss

 

[PHILYD1]

I should Prob. point this out that i have SPS in my tank that are doing really well. it seems that what ever is affecting the SPS hits them hard but before that they are doing well

 

[h2o]

at this point 100% water change wont be a bad idea i had a similar crash last summer and did a huge water change all new rodi filters and new bucket of salt was lucky enough to save some frags, god knows what happen lps zoas were doing great and most sps started to bleach some from the bottom some from the tips par were on point so its hard to say
but it was something in the water because after the huge water change it made a slow come back.

 

[Josh]

Are you using a hydrometer or refractometer? Have you calibrated recently?

 

[Aqua Pro Builder]

All living organisms have many different diseases even though symptoms can be similar especially when we cannot ask the corals where it hurts. When weather changes, more of these gremlins thing happen-may be our systems are not stable enough to handle the weather swing or may be during weather change, gremlins fly over to our tanks.

For example, I would hear my friends over the same week reporting our same type of phyto crashed while another type were doing good. These are not simply coincidence-there are things in the air that we have no direct treatment. Most of these gremlins stuff, I called them virus and bacteria which I cannot even see. I just bought a cheapo microscope and hopefully see what's causing these events.

If you already have some sort of hospital tank, QT tank laying around, why not do a little experiment with some small frag with different treatment while waiting out the problem. I would once again go for bacterial and virus treatment first.

 

[PHILYD1]

Are you using a hydrometer or refractometer? Have you calibrated recently?

I use a refractometer, and i calibrate it weekly

 

[prattreef]

All living organisms have many different diseases even though symptoms can be similar especially when we cannot ask the corals where it hurts. When weather changes, more of these gremlins thing happen-may be our systems are not stable enough to handle the weather swing or may be during weather change, gremlins fly over to our tanks.

For example, I would hear my friends over the same week reporting our same type of phyto crashed while another type were doing good. These are not simply coincidence-there are things in the air that we have no direct treatment. Most of these gremlins stuff, I called them virus and bacteria which I cannot even see. I just bought a cheapo microscope and hopefully see what's causing these events.

If you already have some sort of hospital tank, QT tank laying around, why not do a little experiment with some small frag with different treatment while waiting out the problem. I would once again go for bacterial and virus treatment first.

+1 and I would add that reducing stressors i.e. stability (assuming things are spot on) will help more than drastic clutching at straws changes. I don't think it would hurt to run a little carbon though I'd be very careful with light shock since you don't normally use it.

 

[PHILYD1]

Found the Medication but need to figure out how to dose it...