When i make a reply, its not written in stone its my opinion and what works for me! i genuinely want to help people! ever since i come on this forum i'v had to prove everything what i'v said, of which i did! but its getting a drag now someone asking for pics of my 8 y/tangs come on.............its got more than 500+gals dont tell me thats to many please! and as for the original thread, alfa who you go with is your perogitive! but yes i still say your tank is plenty big enough for at least 5+ y/tangs and yes its my opinion so good luck alfa go with your gut feelings
Another Tang Question?
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Hmmm....... 78*24*28/231 = 226Gal. (US gallon). 72*24*24/231 = 180 Gal.Minh Nguyen":2aek3yn0 said:
Minh, 4 cubic foot = 60Gal????
1 cubic foot = 12*12*12/231 = 7.5Gal
4 cubic foot = 7.5*4 = 30Gal.
Yep. I find no matter how much effort I put in to steer original posters away from stressing their fish, many are only interested in hearing "Yes, you can" or "Yes, It's possible" type of response. Most will come back posting "I have done it".SPC":2aek3yn0 said:
Very true. I had (just parted the last bit out....) a pond measuring 72*48*24. In it I only filled it up halfway which is roughly 160Gal of water. Even though it's only 160Gal, the actual swimming space is huge consider the length of the pond/tank. I had the pond setup so all LR and corals are stacked in the center, leaving continuous circular swimming space for fishes. I have yet observe agressions among fish in that pond. I had up to 4 tangs and 6 other fishes at one time.Mihn":2aek3yn0 said:
It's the swimming space(length) that counts. Not tank volume, nor how much money the tank worth.
Even if the tank is 7 foot long, if the actual swimming space is only 7 foot side to side, you can't put much in it still. Why can't they come out with cheap circular tank?
SPC":1xza7kja said:
Steve,
I wasn't referring to you preaching to me in particular. I think dimaggio understood what I was trying to say, and probably did a better job of articulating how these boards have moved toward a policy of intolerance, than I could. Terms like the "tang police" speak for themselves. I think the religious imagery came to me from a thread titled "Time for the commandments of reefing" that was started by tazdevil. I'm all for giving people good advice and promoting responsible reefkeeping, I just don't think all the rules are ready to be written in stone.
Mitch
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Steve,
-Well I'm sorry Mitch but I just don't see this as something new. I find terms like the "tang police" to be started by those who want to cram as many fish in an aquarium as they can in order to impress their friends and neighbors. These types of aquarium keepers also tend to go for the pretty fish that have been determined by the true hobbiest to be almost impossible to keep.
As I look back over this thread I see a person asking for advice and getting just that. If you will notice on page one I gave my opinion on how many yellow tangs I thought the poster asking the question should keep in their tank. Then notice this was followed by Vixyswillie amazement at my answer, his questioning of my opinion, and his asking where Gary was. Now you tell me, should I place a label on Vixyswillie because of his apparent attempt at trying to rally the troops? Are Vixyswillie remarks, and Gary's (full of crap) type remarks ok with you because they seem to oppose the "tang police"? How are their remarks, and others similar to them, not a form of intolerance? Lets look at both sides of this story if we are going to start throwing accusations around about preaching, intolerance and a certain group that bans together.
Steve
Steve,
-Well I'm sorry Mitch but I just don't see this as something new. I find terms like the "tang police" to be started by those who want to cram as many fish in an aquarium as they can in order to impress their friends and neighbors. These types of aquarium keepers also tend to go for the pretty fish that have been determined by the true hobbiest to be almost impossible to keep.
As I look back over this thread I see a person asking for advice and getting just that. If you will notice on page one I gave my opinion on how many yellow tangs I thought the poster asking the question should keep in their tank. Then notice this was followed by Vixyswillie amazement at my answer, his questioning of my opinion, and his asking where Gary was. Now you tell me, should I place a label on Vixyswillie because of his apparent attempt at trying to rally the troops? Are Vixyswillie remarks, and Gary's (full of crap) type remarks ok with you because they seem to oppose the "tang police"? How are their remarks, and others similar to them, not a form of intolerance? Lets look at both sides of this story if we are going to start throwing accusations around about preaching, intolerance and a certain group that bans together.
Steve
not knowing alot myself, but coming from britain and seeing garys tank in various mags at home he's well respected. i think he gave no bad information, just opposed to possibly what you think is write! i need all types of info setting up my tank and i will be taking advice off who i seem responsible enough to give it. yes i think gary has a way with certain words his fav being crap! but you must be honest his tank must speak for itself, his last tank was a beauty so try being a bit more tolerant of someone else's veiws as thats all they are views? carol getting more confused, how many yellows i stick in my tank 6x2x2
Can we kill the thread Admin.
I think I have about as much advice as I need and my tank hasnt even got any water in it yet. I asked a question, which admittedly I knew would fuel some debate, but the debate has long since drifted of the original question.
I certainly wont be asking any other simple questions guys (and Carol). The effort to trawl through so much c**p for the actual answers inst worth the effort.
Tnx
Alpha :?
I think I have about as much advice as I need and my tank hasnt even got any water in it yet. I asked a question, which admittedly I knew would fuel some debate, but the debate has long since drifted of the original question.
I certainly wont be asking any other simple questions guys (and Carol). The effort to trawl through so much c**p for the actual answers inst worth the effort.
Tnx
Alpha :?
Off topic, I apologize.
Does most UK-ish have habits of typing without any clear break in sentences and tendencies to leave out Big Caps where they should be? In fact, all Big Caps are missing from your post and most of GT's post. I remembered Mouse does that sometimes as well.........
Getting lazy already? I have to say proper typing habits make posts much easier and pleasurable to read.
Carry-on.........
(if this thread gets closed, I might never have answers to the question...... Oh well...)
Does most UK-ish have habits of typing without any clear break in sentences and tendencies to leave out Big Caps where they should be? In fact, all Big Caps are missing from your post and most of GT's post. I remembered Mouse does that sometimes as well.........
Getting lazy already? I have to say proper typing habits make posts much easier and pleasurable to read.
Carry-on.........
(if this thread gets closed, I might never have answers to the question...... Oh well...)
Garry thomas":2jw8voyb said:
I think part of the difficulty with threads like this is that the internet is a horrible medium for expressing friendly disagreement. Whereas something like the above might be acceptable in conversation, it can easily come across as harsh and demeaning when typed. I always try to look past such stylistic deterrents, but honestly sometimes it is difficult for me. I think other people tend to have the same reaction, and therefore things can easily start to degenerate. Just something to keep in mind as we try to express ourselves, offer advice, and debate the issues.
Tim
danmhippo":3p8vc2cy said:
Dan, as far as I was aware I usually use correct punctuation and grammer. My apologies if this isnt the case but I sometimes sit with only the light from my FOWLR tank in the distance. Spelling and grammer mistakes are inevitable.
I alos have a nasty habit of abbreviating a lot (too much actually) so my apologies if it complicates my posts.
As to whether it is a "across the pond" thing I simply dont have an answer for you. Not that I am aware of (IMO) I do have a question. Is it a common forum thing or an American thing to chop previous post up and answer each little bit seperately? This serioulsly lengthens the thread as I finish reading one it ends up repeated potentially several times. Not a gripe guys just an observation.
My reason for asking Admin to close is that I believe much of the responses belong in the sump rather than in the general reefkeeping forum. This looks like a hot subject till you open it.
Ps What are the Tang Police and why might they come to take me away?
Alpha
Alpha,
There are people on this bulletin board that will tell you you can't keep a tang in an aquarium - PERIOD! There is no "winning" this one.
I suggest you read up and gather as much information as possible, then make an informed decision before buying fish.
I'm sorry that the "tang police" have made such a mess of this thread and I welcome you to this bulletin board.
I am going to leave the thread open as there is some genuinely good information here.
Cheers
James
There are people on this bulletin board that will tell you you can't keep a tang in an aquarium - PERIOD! There is no "winning" this one.
I suggest you read up and gather as much information as possible, then make an informed decision before buying fish.
I'm sorry that the "tang police" have made such a mess of this thread and I welcome you to this bulletin board.
I am going to leave the thread open as there is some genuinely good information here.
Cheers
James
i don't even have a tank yet so i have no right to comment, but my research so far indicates that almost as important as total bioload is the time and rate at which pollutant creators are added. perhaps X number of tangs in X gallons of water is acceptable, but only after X amount of time during which the tank has shown stable and acceptable toxin levels.
so many questions, so few authorities.
so many questions, so few authorities.
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