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You could say that just about any shipment that comes from regions other than Southeast Asia, is net caught.

You could, but it would be an untrue statement. Cyanide isn't the only drug used to capture fish, how bout Quin? Used all over the Carribean and other places.
 

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Dogfish Head":1knc9e59 said:
Friends:

A simple question: I am doing some work for the World Bank on designing of their big coral reef conservation project in Indonesia, Coremap 2, which will come on line early next year with $80 million over five years for major coral reef sites in eastern Indonesia. I have been asked to develop a component of the project to deal with destructive fishing practices and other problems in the live reef trade (food fish, ornamentals, corals). Does anyone on this forum have an idea of (a) what they think should be done in terms of training and all the other things needed for cyanide fishing reform; and (b) what, specifically, would it cost, in remote areas of Indonesia? I have my own ideas (and even some data), but I'd love to hear some practical, non-sarcastic ideas on what needs to be done and what it might cost. The government seems open to accepting this component of the project, and if so, it could mean some serious funding for the reform activities you all talk about all the time. So what should the money go into, how do we develop a cadre of people to carry it out, etc?

Thanks,

Chip (Barber, the non-fish selling guy)

I'm just wondering why this important post by Chip Barber didn't get the attention it deserved? It seems to me that $80,000,000 is enough to fund a rather serious effort at addressing the problems facing the reefs in Indo. Now that MAC has chosen to concentrate on Fiji next, I think Chip could really use some constructive suggestions. Rover you should move this topic to a new thread and see if people here know how to provide positive input, instead of just wanting to argue all the time.
 

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dizzy":2z0ulskt said:
Dogfish Head":2z0ulskt said:
Friends:

A simple question: I am doing some work for the World Bank on designing of their big coral reef conservation project in Indonesia, Coremap 2, which will come on line early next year with $80 million over five years for major coral reef sites in eastern Indonesia. I have been asked to develop a component of the project to deal with destructive fishing practices and other problems in the live reef trade (food fish, ornamentals, corals). Does anyone on this forum have an idea of (a) what they think should be done in terms of training and all the other things needed for cyanide fishing reform; and (b) what, specifically, would it cost, in remote areas of Indonesia? I have my own ideas (and even some data), but I'd love to hear some practical, non-sarcastic ideas on what needs to be done and what it might cost. The government seems open to accepting this component of the project, and if so, it could mean some serious funding for the reform activities you all talk about all the time. So what should the money go into, how do we develop a cadre of people to carry it out, etc?

Thanks,

Chip (Barber, the non-fish selling guy)

I'm just wondering why this important post by Chip Barber didn't get the attention it deserved? It seems to me that $80,000,000 is enough to fund a rather serious effort at addressing the problems facing the reefs in Indo. Now that MAC has chosen to concentrate on Fiji next, I think Chip could really use some constructive suggestions. Rover you should move this topic to a new thread and see if people here know how to provide positive input, instead of just wanting to argue all the time.

Dizzy,

Why this important post didn't get the attention it deserved?

Dizzy, you will open another can of worms. I found Chip's post very interesting, but it was killed instantaneously by someone who doesn't like IMA at all. That person is S. Robinson . As you can see this individual is more trouble than anything else. Did you see Robinson's response to Chip?
The lidership of the reform movement is in the wrong hands.

Jaime


Jaime
 

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Jaime Baquero":26h1iro4 said:
The lidership of the reform movement is in the wrong hands.

Jaime

Is this to imply that the leadership of the reform movement is in Steve's hands? Or in someone else's?

I'm confused here, Jaime.

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Mike Kirda
 

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