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[Anonymous]

wow, I may be dumb

but I can still tell when I am a prime target for insult (imo)no worries though

I first said that I know that coral are animals, please reread vits

I did not know snails and slugs were animals, I admit it ..

pretty dumb I guess, never said they were a plant though

according to the dictonary as I quoted above also, they must be

but it also makes it sound like bugs are to

I always thought they were just bugs, not animals

Im no insectary expert either

I am not a slug, snail, marine biologist, I admit, I'm a dumby..but no need to stone me for it

I dont really care what sceintific classification they fall under
I can prove that I have the ablity to keep a AWESOME reef tank though

heck I never even thought about if a slug was a animal or a slug..until this thread

Atleast what I think to be, and others have told me (about keepin a reef tank)

I think thats because I have did it since before keepin coral was such a big hobby....not braggin but when you get insulted you have to say somethin

I only come to the defense of ebay aginst unsubsantiated acusations (imo)

Heck I may play so dumb just to make others true vertues truely show

but Im probably just that dumb

heck I could'nt even find virtues in the dic. to make sure I spelled it right

no, just ignorant :wink:

how can you NOT know the difference between the animal and plant kingdom ? - that's 4th grade or lower material !! :?

 

[coralfarmin]

dumb ignorant heck they both sound good to me

I reckn

mabey thats whay I thought a slug was a slug a bug was a bug and a animal would bleed blood

I just did not know, or ever think about slugs before

I am ignorant

 

[coralfarmin]

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY REREAD ...

I NEVER SAID A CORAL OR SLUG WAS A PLANT

REREAD REREAD REREAD

YOU MUST HAVE SELECTIVE READING
KALK ACUSED(OR IMPLIED) EBAY OF CONSIDERING THEM PLANTS(SLUGS), AND CORAL NOT BEING ANIMALS,

WITHOUT ACTUALY HAVIN ANY SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL TO PROVE THAT

I HAVE ONLY SEEN JENN AND HIM SAY THAT

PRETTY BAD MOVE IMO

WORSE THAN BEING DUMB AND IGNORANT

THAT WAS RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH (SLANDER ie)IMO

JUST IMO THOUGH OF COURSE

 

[Anonymous]

now you're yelling

 

[coralfarmin]

SORRY

BUT YOU MIGHT LISTEN NOW

 

[Anonymous]

then again, i may not



the best way to get someone to try and listen to you is to whisper :wink:

 

[coralfarmin]

u must be another who hates to admit they were wrong

since you insist to fabricate words to put in my mouth to make me look worse than I already do on my own

 

[coralfarmin]

I guess they are like snails...kalk

I know coral are animals, but they sure look like flowers, and they do utilize light, try raising puppies in a greenhouse

I'd not waste money trying to sue ebay if I were you, you will lose imo

where did I say a slug or coral was a plant

 

[Anonymous]

it's possible, i'm certainly not perfect


shhhhhhh.....

 

[Anonymous]

i said you didn't know what defines an animal as being an animal, or a plant as being a plant


and you certainly corroborated that observation

now shhhhhh.....

 

[coralfarmin]

wow, I may be dumb

but I can still tell when I am a prime target for insult (imo)no worries though

I first said that I know that coral are animals, please reread vits

I did not know snails and slugs were animals, I admit it ..

pretty dumb I guess, never said they were a plant though

according to the dictonary as I quoted above also, they must be

but it also makes it sound like bugs are to

I always thought they were just bugs, not animals

Im no insectary expert either

I am not a slug, snail, marine biologist, I admit, I'm a dumby..but no need to stone me for it

I dont really care what sceintific classification they fall under
I can prove that I have the ablity to keep a AWESOME reef tank though

heck I never even thought about if a slug was a animal or a slug..until this thread

Atleast what I think to be, and others have told me (about keepin a reef tank)

I think thats because I have did it since before keepin coral was such a big hobby....not braggin but when you get insulted you have to say somethin

I only come to the defense of ebay aginst unsubsantiated acusations (imo)

Heck I may play so dumb just to make others true vertues truely show

but Im probably just that dumb

heck I could'nt even find virtues in the dic. to make sure I spelled it right

no, just ignorant :wink:

how can you NOT know the difference between the animal and plant kingdom ? - that's 4th grade or lower material !! :?

I dont see that here???

once agin I never said a slug or coral was in the plant kingdom or even thought that they might be

I figured a slug must just be a slug

not a plant

read what you like though

 

[Anonymous]

er-


a snail moves about, and isn't a plant....


yet you didnt know that it was an animal, until you looked up the definition of animal (which you actually had to do)


ergo-you did not know the difference between a plant and an animal



do i still need to clarify? or do you want to embarass yourself further ? :wink:


i'd suggest you give it a rest for a short while, think about it over the weekend, and respond if and only if you have to. i mean, feel compelled in some profound way :lol:

 

[JT]

Hrmmm JT didn't log off my laptop! hehehe

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

OK

Lets talk plants

Would you like me to explain the method of cubin and squarin for stablizin or hybritizin

or how bought grafting weeping jap maples to regular jap root stock

or grafting (budding its called in this case)pink dogwoods to white root stock

or stratigizing seed for germination
or how bout intermittant mist propagation of ornamental soft woods

or how bout hydro, areo or organic produce

one thing I know way better than reef keepin is plants

I know a snail is not a plant

but like bugs

I thought they had their own phylum(did not feel like lookin it up) I guess

heck like I said
I never thought about it

but being on a farm/nursery a good part of my life

I can talk plants, hort. or bot.

please email me for any futher insult......I mean discussion about plants

 

[JennM]

:lol:

then again, does a roll qualify to be judged as smaller than a breadbox ?

Vitz, do you walk to work, or do you pack a lunch? :lol:

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

jennifer

dont ya want to talk about plants with me anymore

or ebays "policies"

 

[JennM]

HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY REREAD ...

I NEVER SAID A CORAL OR SLUG WAS A PLANT

REREAD REREAD REREAD

YOU MUST HAVE SELECTIVE READING
KALK ACUSED EBAY OF CONSIDERING THEM PLANTS,

WITHOUT ACTUALY HAVIN ANY SUBSTANTIAL MATERIAL TO PROVE THAT

I HAVE ONLY SEEN JENN AND HIM SAY THAT

PRETTY BAD MOVE IMO

WORSE THAN BEING DUMB AND IGNORANT

THAT WAS RECKLESS DISREGARD FOR THE TRUTH (SLANDER ie)IMO

JUST IMO THOUGH OF COURSE

Psssst, Eddie...

May want to take your own advice and re-read. I said "The sale of live animals is prohibited on eBay."

I didn't make the leap that they consider live corals and sea stars and other invertebrates to be "plants".

If you want to read between the lines in context, what I was implying was NOT that eBay considers these organisms to be plants, but rather they do not choose to enforce their own rules where these organisms are concerned.

I did a quick search on the "Help" section of ebay.com using "sale of live animals" as my search terms. Here is what I found:

Animals and Wildlife Products




eBay generally does not allow the listing of live animals or pets on eBay. In restricted cases, some stuffed birds and the pelts and skins of some animals are permitted. Sellers who wish to list these items should review the specific rules in the “Some Examples” section below to ensure their listings comply with eBay policy. We also encourage members to educate themselves on the laws governing the regulation of the sale of animals found in the additional information section.

Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:

Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Loss of PowerSeller status

Under "Examples" I found:

Live Animals: Other than the exceptions noted here, eBay does not allow sales of live animals or pets on eBay. eBay allows sales of tropical fish and domestic (i.e. not exotic) aquatic snails, provided the seller has the proper Federal (APHIS PPQ) - see Form 526 info below) and/or State permit(s) that allows for movement across State lines (and/or for importation into the U. S.), and provided that the seller guarantees in the listing that the animals will be packaged safely, and shipped via next day delivery.

Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service allows five species of snails to be imported and sold as escargot: Cantareus apertus (Helix aperta), Cryptomphalus aspersus (Helix aspersa), Eobania vermiculata (Otala vermiculata), Helix pomatia, and Otala lactea; and requires their importation to take place through John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York where identifiers will confirm the identity of live snails.

So... *technically*, eBay does not permit the sale of live coral, sea stars, or imported snails such as Mexican Turbos, Tonga Nassarius, Trochus grazers or any of the myriad of others offered. Kiki's "Kit" of nudibranchs would be against their policy too. Marine fishes are not mentioned, only tropical fish (which to me implies freshwater fishes)...

I know that many have complained to eBay about this and complaints have fallen on deaf ears, but if you want to follow the letter of eBays policies, there they are.

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

hmm

let me find their exceptions that I read,somthing about crabs fish and aquarium related stuff being ok if shipped overnight express



I will post a link since I am to dumb to cut and paste

I think in another post you implyed they were considering them plants

I am sorry if you did not make the bold leap kalk made(imo) I thought you did but dont care to reread all that you've said to confirm, in other threads
my mistake

I stand corrected,I should have known "you" would not make that mistake

how bout plants

care to discuss them instead

 

[JennM]

Nope, I don't care to talk about terrestrial plants. I am what you call a "brown thumb". I look at a terrestrial plant and it dies.

If you care to read back I'm sure you will find that I never implied directly or indirectly that eBay considers these organisms to be plants. If Jeff did, I can't speak for him but I'm sure he made the comment facaetiously. He also works in the horticultural field so I'm quite certain he knows the difference.

Jenn

 

[JennM]

Animals and Wildlife Products




eBay generally does not allow the listing of live animals or pets on eBay. In restricted cases, some stuffed birds and the pelts and skins of some animals are permitted. Sellers who wish to list these items should review the specific rules in the “Some Examples” section below to ensure their listings comply with eBay policy. We also encourage members to educate themselves on the laws governing the regulation of the sale of animals found in the additional information section.

Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:

Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Loss of PowerSeller status

Under "Examples" I found:

Live Animals: Other than the exceptions noted here, eBay does not allow sales of live animals or pets on eBay. eBay allows sales of tropical fish and domestic (i.e. not exotic) aquatic snails, provided the seller has the proper Federal (APHIS PPQ) - see Form 526 info below) and/or State permit(s) that allows for movement across State lines (and/or for importation into the U. S.), and provided that the seller guarantees in the listing that the animals will be packaged safely, and shipped via next day delivery.

Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service allows five species of snails to be imported and sold as escargot: Cantareus apertus (Helix aperta), Cryptomphalus aspersus (Helix aspersa), Eobania vermiculata (Otala vermiculata), Helix pomatia, and Otala lactea; and requires their importation to take place through John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York where identifiers will confirm the identity of live snails.

Jenn

Try again, Eddie, I had already found that for you.

Jenn