Ricordia florida suppliers?

[coralfarmin]

here is a "link"
http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/wildlife.html

it just said aquarium fish not tropical

if jeff is kalk just read how he discribed,(i guess he thought funny) a lawsuit aginst ebay

for not considering his potinal puppy sales as plants, "what I comprehended"

I could be wrong "AGIN"

 

[coralfarmin]

Now E-bay also thinks nudibranches / Slugs are not animals?
What ? the worlds fastest egg laying plants?
I think its time for a lawsuit, I wanna sell puppies on ebay!
The same rules of science should apply to all life forms sold on their site. Force them to prove a puppy is not a plant, then use their own explanation [of whats an animal] to prove unequal application of their rules. Expose the damages to the tens of thousands of E-bay users having been misinformed that corals , anemones, slugs etc are not animals. :wink:

heres what he said

mabey he did not mean what I thought

he should have consulted with ebay first, IMO (he may have though)

heck I'm so dumb I dont know what to think

 

[JennM]

Too bad Jeff's (aka Kalk's) sense of humour is lost on you

The link you posted does not work.

I did a similar search on eBay's help section for "wildlife" and got this link:

http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/wildlife.html

It pointed me to exactly the same page and examples I cut and pasted in my previous post. If I've missed something, please point it out to me. If I didn't miss anything, then yes, I guess you are incorrect, as you put it, "agin".

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

sorry
my little girl had hold of my pen when I wrote the link I read

I will do it agin

 

[coralfarmin]

http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/wildlife.html

it was the ie

anyway it says aquarium or pond fish snails and similar creatures(pretty broad)

are exceptions

no, I dont think what I consider to be slander of a great company to be funny(JUST IMO)

mabey I am just to countryfied

I read that link as its ok with them

 

[JennM]

Don't bother - I posted it. Read my post please if you're able... it gave the *same* information I pasted.

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

I already did(fix my link)its not the one you posted

go ahead and read the link above

like I said I am so dumb I read that link as its ok

and went no farther

 

[JennM]

http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/wildlife.html

it was the ie

anyway it says aquarium or pond fish and related stuff snails and similar creatures(pretty broad)

are exceptions

no, I dont think what I consider to be slander of a great company to be funny(JUST IMO)

mabey I am just to countryfied

I read that link as its ok with them

Your link is *still* bad.

One more time, with feeling... here is the EXACT text:

Live Animals: Other than the exceptions noted here, eBay does not allow sales of live animals or pets on eBay. eBay allows sales of tropical fish and domestic (i.e. not exotic) aquatic snails, provided the seller has the proper Federal (APHIS PPQ) - see Form 526 info below) and/or State permit(s) that allows for movement across State lines (and/or for importation into the U. S.), and provided that the seller guarantees in the listing that the animals will be packaged safely, and shipped via next day delivery.

I don't see anything about pond stuff. It says TROPICAL FISH AND DOMESTIC SNAILS and the next paragraph specifies those for escargot.

It also stipulates that you need to have the proper permits. Do you have these permits to move things across state lines?

I don't think corals or sea stars qualify as either tropical fish, or domestic snails, and perhaps there's a scientist on the board who will confirm that ::duh:: Ergo anything else would be prohibited for sale on eBay.

I think perhaps *you* are choosing to interpret the policy much more broadly than it is stated. It's right there in plain text. I've posted it 3 times now. If you cannot read English I can try to pop it through a Google translator for you.

So I'll say it again. Ebay's policy is clear. Just because others are doing it and getting away with it does not make it right.

Observing that eBay is choosing not to enforce their own policies where these creatures are involved, is not slander, nor is it libel for that matter. It's a fact.

I've chewed my cabbage enough times tonight. Eddie, why not spend a bit of time reading the replies to your weak arguments before you spend more bandwidth repeating the same nonsense.

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

no, the link above and below does work
http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/wildlife.html

it was the *ie*

dont know why it dont for you

please check agin

it says exactly

AQUARIUM OR POND FISH SNAILS AND SIMILAR CREATURES(ARE EXCEPTIONS)

THE EBAY LOGO AT THE TOP LEFT SAYS "EBAY.ie"

 

[JennM]

This link that you provided:

http://pages.ebay.ie/help/policies/wildlife.html

Pertains to sales within the United KINGDOM, specifically IRELAND, not the United States.

Unless you've recently relocated across the pond, I'd suggest you check out the link *I* provided, which pertains to the United States of America.

Honestly, Eddie, are you just trolling now, or are you serious?

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

no

sorry jenn

your right "agin"

I only read about the fish

not that top part about the UK

oh well it dont matter

nothin you or I say makes any diff anyway

I stand corrected "agin"

sales will go on anyway though and I think that ebay will be the #1 coral
connection one day

there is a guy in NC who has already sold

OVER 2000 CORALS ON EBAY(it would take a whole lot of stores like yours to hit that # i bet jenn)

SO GET USED TO IT PEOPLE

I'm sure his wholesale coral connections LOVE him

it is their(ebays) company

should they not be able to do as they please with it ?

I'm sure that somewhere in their policies they are protected from everything that anyone could throw at them

 

[JennM]

Oooh only 2000 corals? I'm shakin' - NOT.

There will always be people who want to observe the colony firsthand themselves, and there will always be people who see the value added in the service they get from their local fish shop. Only a small percentage of hobbyist purchases are made over the Internet, and eBay is only a small percentage of those. There are dozens of dot-coms, some based from legitmate storefronts, and some garage-based enterprises. There's plenty of ripoff artists on eBay as well, and many people are leery about dealing with strangers, sight unseen.

I've bought stuff on eBay... model trains for my son, accessories for my camera - heck I've even sold stuff on eBay - in '99 I helped sell ceramic angel figurines for a friend with a small cottage business.

I personally maintain that eBay is not an appropriate venue for the sale of live organisms. I won't buy them, nor will I sell them. Merchandise is one thing - livestock is quite another. Like it or not, many other people both in the trade and out, feel the same way.

Yep eBay can conduct themselves as they see fit. Just like puppy mills and pet shops that deal in 'milled' puppies can do so. Just because it's done, does not make it right. I think that's the point you seem to be missing in your search for foreign eBay policies and procedures.

I don't feel threatened in the least by you, eBay, or anyone else. Especially when they aren't even sure what nation they're selling in

Well, Eddie, it's Saturday night - it's been fun, but I've got better things to do with the rest of my evening.

::::Tips her Corona toward Eddie as she toddles off::::

Night night!

Jenn

 

[coralfarmin]

thank you jenn
for your well thought reply

I dont see the stores being able to keep up with the inflation rates as well as .comers

in the future

but like you already know

I'm a slow learner

wheres vits,I want to talk plants agin (JUST KIDDING)

I'm done to

btw
dont forget the people without fine stores like yours to go to

I was in the hobby long before I went to a coral specialty store,since theres not even a pet shop in my town, the one that used to be here only had fresh water fish

then there is a guy with a real nice "barn" fish store, not to far away, but he only sells fresh water too

 

[JT]

Coralflamin:

I just moved here to the South but I've heard a saying that seems fitting for you.

<southern_drawl>Are you some kind of moron?</southern_drawl>

Also, what value added services does eBay provide? I don't see the end of retail brick and mortor stores anytime in the near future like you and other internet only biggots like you prophetize.

- UncleJT

 

[coralfarmin]

huh

why such a bad attitude

I never said that the stores will close

just not keep up with inflation as well as .comers

I quess I am just a Dumb, Ignorant, Moron

heck I like to come over here to be this handful of wolfs wippin post

 

[Kalkbreath]

What I dont understand about livestock purchases on Ebay, is the shipping.
Most transactions are for one single item. The costs and time involved to send one animal is pretty steep for both parties! The seller has to box up one coral and take it to fed ex. Then the buyer also gets reamed by having to pay 30 bucks shipping for the one stinking coral!
I fully understand online retail , where you can buy six items and have a box of corals sent. But this one coral at a time thing on Ebay is hard to comprehend? {Acantastrea not with standing}

 

[coralfarmin]

hey Kalk

let me explain

lets say "you" use a 12 x 12 box with 1.5" blanks

"you" could fit about 4 medium corals per cubic ft box

most people might ask "you" to email them a list/pics, to fill out the rest of the box

about 15-20 lbs

depends on your incentive discounts for shipping rates...ie
volume/company

"you" might have free pick up scheduled for the latest time of day for the carriers route

same for your regular airport to airport freight charges with the incentives

anyway, alot I see on ebay break the rules and link to their site also, from the listing, instead of the ME page

thats not enforced either though I guess

 

[Kalkbreath]

Coralflamin:

I just moved here to the South but I've heard a saying that seems fitting for you.

<southern_drawl>Are you some kind of moron?</southern_drawl>

Also, what value added services does eBay provide? I don't see the end of retail brick and mortor stores anytime in the near future like you and other internet only biggots like you prophetize.

- UncleJT

Having used this saying several times over the past week .........I feel the need to correct your attempt to echo our southern charm.

you.... Some kinda moron?

"Are you" is most often used when asking if a verb is about to present itself.........Like" Are you sh**en me? The "You" alone without the "Are" is used when establishing a nouns existence.
"You got any more beer?" "You some kinda wise guy?"
"Are you going to tell your sister?" or "Are you still eatin that?
Beginning the sentence with a preposition is a popular pastime as well !

 

[coralfarmin]

also BO is usaly somewhere in there

 

[Kalkbreath]

also BO is usaly somewhere in there

That's something we southerners like to think of as our own personal identifying aura.......Kinda like a PIN with a ATM card.
[I used the Preposition at the beginning of the sentence like a pro!]