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Old 02-10-2012, 03:50 PM
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Looking @ Controllers

RKE with net ($474) or Neptune AquaController Apex System ($494)?

I want the best unit and I want an easy to use IPOD app to be my primary interface after initial setup.
Please help!

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Old 02-10-2012, 09:49 PM
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Looking @ Dry Goods

Got my deliveries today and it was like XMAS²!!!!!!!! I will let the pictures do the talking.


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Old 02-10-2012, 09:59 PM
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Looking @ BRS Pukani Dry Rock

Package came wrapped very well. Not too much rubble. 1-2 pieces football size, the rest grapefruit size.
Pictures are not so great. Didn't want to go opening the bags tonight. This is what 40lbs dry Pukani Rock from BRS looks like.

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Looking @ BRS Tonga Dry Rock

Package came wrapped very well. I asked for 4 pieces and I got 4 pieces but one is just a nub. The other 3 pieces look great. I have not weighed them. I think I have at least 6lbs even if I discard the lighter in color nub.
This is what 6lbs dry Tonga Rock from BRS looks like.


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Old 02-10-2012, 11:10 PM
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Third tunga branch is very nice, wish the rest were similar in shape. Last piece... Hmmmm not so much a branch.... This build looks like its gonna be a great one.
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Old 02-11-2012, 11:02 AM
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Looking @ Neptune Apex

All right I did some research.

Seems the variable speed on the Base Apex UNIT will not work for the AI light control. Those variable speed ports there are not compatible with the AI lighting for some reason.

I would need the VDM module to control the AI lights.

I would need the Apex lite with VDM module & the WMX module to control the AI lights and the Ecotech pump.

I do not need the full Apex.

Neptune Apex Lite -->$369.95
Neptune PH Probe --> $44.99
Neptune VDM --> $99.99
Neptune WMX --> $125.99 (not going to order day one as its really not necessary having only 1 MP10wes

Confirm/Deny please!

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Old 02-11-2012, 05:19 PM
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Apex Base Unit with Temp Probe $224.99
Standare Grade PH Probe $44.95
Energy_Bar_8_Module $149.95

Total $419.85


Same package but with Display $494.95

Savings by not getting display. $75.10
Apex_Display_Module Alone $124.95
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Old 02-12-2012, 11:11 AM
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Thanks guys, Apex lite with display and PH probe is my final decision.
Down the line I might add WMX and VDM.
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Old 02-13-2012, 08:48 AM
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Here is what's left to order that I am waiting on until the tank / stand / sump are delivered.
I will call CADLIGHTS today for an update.

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Old 02-13-2012, 01:45 PM
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Very nice documenting your progress. Hopefully i can start my tank and document the way you do, but probably too lazy to do so....lol! Can't wait to see your tank up. Any update on the tank delivery, i read that their customer servicer is horrible. I'm thinking of getting the 100g cadlight tank but not sure yet.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:41 AM
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Call To CADlights


Tank
It has been 2 weeks since my tank order. I was given a 2-3 week time frame for tank build and a 2 week back order for the stand. Hearing nothing @ the 2 week mark I wanted to check in. I gave CAD lights a call last night and I am glad I did.

When I 1st called CADlights to spec a tank I spoke with Eddie who was very knowledgable. He gave me his opinions and I jotted them down to use for when I was to call back in another week and actually place the order. It was at this time that Eddie was not available. Andrew was nice enough to help placing the order. There were not many questions on my end since I had item by item list of how I wanted the tank built. He took the information and placed the order.

Yesterday thankfully when I called I got Eddie. He had let me know that the glass was about dry and the custom overflow would be built tomorrow morning. He starts confirming some details and I had to stop him. When we talked about pipe diameter in the beginning I told them I wanted the largest I could get while still keeping the overflow box small. Eddie's 1st quote was for a 1" drain and a 3/4" return. Fine with me. When the order was placed with Andrew though he suggested 1.5" drain and 1" return. When I asked if they would still fit in the 5x3 overflow he said they would. Never plumbing or drilling a tank before I let it be. It was good that I called Eddie yesterday because if they went with that pipe size my overflow box would have grown considerably.

I had also been told yesterday that my return plumbing inside the overflow box would be flexible pipe which I declared several times before I did not want and I needed hard pipe for both the durso and for the return.

Would I have been given a call at that point (today or tomorrow) to confirm both pipe and overflow box sizes before they went further? I am not sure.............I think they would have picked one and I would have been stuck with it. This is not to bash Andrew either. He is in sales, he is knowledgeable, but when making final adjustments to tank spec's I will talk with Eddie from here on out.

The other thing about Cadlights on the phone service is I feel like I get "yes'd" to death without positive reaffirming confirmation of details. This leads me to repeating myself several times till I get a satisfactory positive confirmation of my request. It is a little frustrating but I understand I am a little ****.



Stand
My order with them is for the 50L white cabinet that they sell. They will be drilling this stand for me to accomodate the relocated overflow. The stand is still on back order. They hope to have the item by March.
Eddie said if I needed a stand before then he could get me discounted pricing on a custom stand using birch that will retain the same look but be much sturdier. He is going to get back to me with pricing. Problem is that this stand will come fully assembled and I will incur another shipping charge. Decision is pending an email back from Eddie with pricing.

Conclusion

I felt it necessary to send an email to CadLights after our phone conversation to put details down in writing from my end before he goes further. I am not sure which work order with which spec's will make it into the hands of the person taking my glass box, drilling holes then doing the overflow. Again maybe I am **** and I should just relax and think that everything will come out great. I just want to me sure the tank comes delivered to my door in the spec I requested.


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I spoke with Eddie and he finalized the tank order today 2/14/12.
This should be the work order that is given to the person building the overflow and drilling the tank.

36"x18"x18"
4 sided starfire glass
clear silicone
The return will be 3/4" and hard piped.
The drain will be 1" with a hard piped durso.
This was done to still fit both in an overflow box that measures 3"x5".
The 3" portion of the rectangle overflow will be along the back wall.
The 5" portion of the rectangle overflow will be along the right wall.
The pipes will be front to back in the overflow.
At the rear will be the return pipe
At the front will be the drain pipe
All pipes inside the overflow will be hard pipes.
The return nozzle will exit the overflow wall pointing from right to left along the back of the tank not 12.5" inches high as previously stated but about 15 inches high on the overflow.
Bulkheads included.
Piping from bulkheads down included.
overflow made from black acrylic with teeth and cover
outside of overflow blacked out to hide plumbing
white 50g Long stand drilled to match new overflow location
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